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The US military dropped off its last batch of artillery shells carrying deadly VX nerve agent to be destroyed
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| May 7, 2021
| Ryan Pickrell
Posted on 05/12/2021 3:37:00 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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Article doesn't say how old these shells were, but I'd assume made in the 80's or earlier. Chemical agents are highly corrosive and I bet the Army is glad to get rid of them.
Wonder where are the binary agents? Are they covered by the treaty as they are not explicitly chemical agents in binary form?
To: where's_the_Outrage?
Hopefully they dropped em off at the white house. Biden could put some on his pudding.
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posted on
05/12/2021 3:44:01 AM PDT
by
maddog55
(The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
To: where's_the_Outrage?
Should this really be in the news?? Not if I was President.
To: where's_the_Outrage?
Who needs chemical weapons, we have Faucci. He can easily off shore to Wuhan whatever he can dream up.
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posted on
05/12/2021 4:28:01 AM PDT
by
Mouton
(The enemy of the people is the media.)
To: where's_the_Outrage?
Russia is laughing, along with China, Iran, etc., etc.
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posted on
05/12/2021 5:42:45 AM PDT
by
cranked
To: where's_the_Outrage?
I’m sure the CCP will have no problem destroying them in a timely manner. ;) /s
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posted on
05/12/2021 5:54:12 AM PDT
by
Safrguns
To: Sacajaweau
“Should this really be in the news?? Not if I was President.”
It’s not a secret. They’ve been doing it for years.
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posted on
05/12/2021 6:49:15 AM PDT
by
dljordan
(Slouching towards Woketopia)
To: where's_the_Outrage?; archy; xzins; SandRat; HarleyLady27; BlackFemaleArmyColonel; ...
I think all the VX rounds we had in the 70’s and 80’s were binary. When I was in the 155mm SP Artillery, 13E Fire Direction Center, the only thing we needed to know about firing chemical rounds was the weight variation from the standard “95 lb. 4 square” of the HE rounds.
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posted on
05/12/2021 7:37:50 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: where's_the_Outrage?
deadly VX nerve agent to be destroyedI could think of better uses for it. Does that make me a bad person?
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posted on
05/12/2021 8:54:32 AM PDT
by
Pollard
To: GreyFriar
Well, wind direction would have been useful too...
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posted on
05/12/2021 9:02:24 AM PDT
by
Chainmail
(Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
To: Chainmail
Prevailing winds in the Fulda Gap were from west to east. For firing data, we used Met +VE (Meteorology report plus Velocity Error) for registration.
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posted on
05/12/2021 9:16:04 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: where's_the_Outrage?
Well, I’m sure the Chinese are doing the same... /s
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posted on
05/12/2021 9:19:18 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(The world's thugs aren't afraid to kick sand in Biden's face... none of 'em. It's gonna get worse)
To: GreyFriar
I think all the VX rounds we had in the 70’s and 80’s were binary.
= = =
If they are binary, are the components configured in the same round, or put together before firing?
If binary, the components are fairly tame, and destruction should be clean and easy.
And if binary, the agent is NOT VX, yet.
To: Scrambler Bob
The concept of the binary rounds was to have the containers with the two components to break when the round was fired and be mixed into VX by the spin of the shell enroute to its target. At least that was the theory I recall being told. We never fired any, thus I don’t know. I don’t think the Army wanted to have one explode on the Grafenwoehr impact area or the impact areas at Ft. Knox and Ft. Hood.
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posted on
05/12/2021 10:32:00 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: Scrambler Bob
I think the problem rounds at Blue Grass Depot were old ones prior to the binary ones. Seems that I once read they were from the late 40s and 50s.
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posted on
05/12/2021 11:03:39 AM PDT
by
damper99
To: GreyFriar
Still, it would be nice to make sure that the winds were still going that way, prior to pulling a lanyard - or at least everyone was in full MOPP gear.
Nasty stuff.
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posted on
05/12/2021 11:25:52 AM PDT
by
Chainmail
(Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
To: Chainmail
I’m glad we’ve never had to find out. I had a great uncle who died in the 1920’s after being gassed while serving in France with the 42d Infantry Division win WWI.
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posted on
05/12/2021 12:11:30 PM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: GreyFriar
At one point in my career, I spent and hour in a bunker containing 4,500 tons of VX. Crazy stuff.
I was part of a team to work out the details with the Soviets to demil/destroy our respective stockpiles.
Sorry to hear about your great uncle - they didn't know it at the time but Mustard (HD) is a very active carcinogen - so you can maybe survive the blistering and the blinding - but it will kill you in the end.
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posted on
05/12/2021 1:07:21 PM PDT
by
Chainmail
(Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
To: Chainmail
I don’t envy you being on that detail. I’m guessing that all went well with it.
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posted on
05/12/2021 4:21:01 PM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: Squantos
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posted on
05/12/2021 4:21:55 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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