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In a Milestone, Schumer Will Propose Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana
NYT via MSN ^ | July 14, 2021 | Nicholas Fandos

Posted on 07/14/2021 5:13:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

Edited on 07/14/2021 7:48:08 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Ueriah

“ It is literally impossible to overdose on cannabis,”

Of course. I was referring to the legalization of all drugs.


161 posted on 07/15/2021 5:38:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Rennes Templar

I agree! A way of getting new democratic voters!


162 posted on 07/15/2021 7:01:57 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (O)
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To: Ueriah
I haven’t been in a dispensary in years. What I saw was shops making money on concentrates, paraphernalia, and t-shirts. If you wanted boutique weed varieties, you might pay a premium. Some pretty potent weed could be had for $5 a gram, though. Sales might reduce that. I knew a guy that was using pot to keep himself from drinking, which made him useless. It worked, but he once complained that the modern weed was too strong, too cheap, and too available. I had to laugh, because I remember the days of the weed droughts.

Bottom line....? There are nuances to growing weed. Southern Oregon hasn’t had huge problems cranking out crops. A lot of it is bound for out of State black markets, though. Plenty of people are smoking weed for free, though, and giving away excess product.

There was a glass shop in town...a rather depressed little town...that had a couple of blown glass bongs with price tags of $3500 and $5000 on them. Maybe some of the tech guys that blow through town in Ferraris might buy them. Who knows? But the homeless don’t seem to have any trouble getting weed if they want it.

163 posted on 07/15/2021 7:09:17 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Artemis Webb
This is a Nothing Burger. It’s not going to change or “buy” a single vote.

Biden is against it, sounds like Schoomer is just patronizing his Left flank.

164 posted on 07/15/2021 7:11:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: gundog

Just what the country needs another intoxicant.


165 posted on 07/15/2021 7:13:38 AM PDT by Reily
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To: gundog

Here in the New York market, which is in a weird state because it’s technically legal to own but illegal to sell right now - I can only imagine that they will be basing the pricing on the neighboring states that have legalized it years ago.

Average price per gram for flower in the NE USA is 17-20 usd per gram (!!!)


166 posted on 07/15/2021 7:17:19 AM PDT by Ueriah
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To: Reily

It’s not like it’s new. But that’s what I call it. Some of the people at the lake I like to fish asked why I didn’t smoke. It boils down to alcohol, or weed, being intoxicated in the park all day doesn’t appeal to me. Granted, many of them lived there.


167 posted on 07/15/2021 7:24:07 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Rennes Templar

Defense lawyers most affected.


168 posted on 07/15/2021 7:31:05 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Play with knives long enough and you will eventually bleed.)
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To: Ueriah

I’m sure I could find varieties going for that much, and higher. If you’re interested in the market from an investment standpoint, that’s a better guide than the free weed that abounds. With intoxicants, the availability of cheap whiskey doesn’t really undercut the market for single malt scotches. As things currently stand, weed isn’t supposed to cross State lines. The Maui Wowie being sold in Oregon must be grown in Oregon. I doubt it’s the same as the Hawaiian grown stuff. Breeders have done all kinds of crazy stuff (remember that just because America was under prohibition, parts of Europe were not) with varieties that will grow in different climates, at different latitudes, indoors or out.


169 posted on 07/15/2021 7:35:17 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I agree!


170 posted on 07/15/2021 8:05:22 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: gundog
I am theoretically libertarian about personal recreation drug use. Personally I don't care what you do to yourself as long as you don't ask me to foot the bill for the consequences.

The reason I call myself theoretical libertarian on this is the following.

1. How do yo separate out the 3rd party effects? Such as intoxicated and driving etc. Well people say we handle alcohol abuse in that regard. Yes we do, and its a problem but another intoxicant will just increase the problem.

2. Politically you're going to be forced to pay for the consequences of use. More intoxicants to choose from, more use, the more the “state” (someone) will reach into your pocket to pay for the consequences. If someone can reach into my pocket to pay for this I want a say through law in how much we allow. Even if effectively we can only reduce the abuse slightly through law. It's still a little less intrusive in my pocket.

171 posted on 07/15/2021 8:21:14 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Right Wing Vegan
POT is the primary one I have to breathe in my own home or yard because of scum pothead neighbors. POT is the reason my daughter can't play hopscotch on the sidewalk. POT is what my niece tested positive for as a THREE-YEAR-OLD infant, also because of neighbors. My sister had to move at great expense and STILL there is POT smoke and vape coming into the NEW home! POT is the primary pollutant-again psychotropic/hallucinogenic DRUG that I have to breathe at every intersection on the road because of degenerate pothead pedestrians AND drivers. POT is what more and more of us have to breathe in parks, schools, public buildings, apartment complexes, yards, own homes.

Your home page flies the flag of New York, where legal sales have still not begun, and possession has been legal only since March 31. Are you saying the situation in New York became what you describe in the course of 3-1/2 months?

172 posted on 07/15/2021 8:22:18 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Reily
1. How do yo separate out the 3rd party effects? Such as intoxicated and driving etc. Well people say we handle alcohol abuse in that regard. Yes we do, and its a problem but another intoxicant will just increase the problem.

2. Politically you're going to be forced to pay for the consequences of use. More intoxicants to choose from, more use, the more the “state” (someone) will reach into your pocket to pay for the consequences.

If legalizing marijuana will increase those problems, and thus should not be done, then criminalizing alcohol would decrease those problems, and thus should be done. Do you support criminalizing alcohol?

173 posted on 07/15/2021 8:24:35 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

No I don’t!
Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote.
We’ve culturally accepted a certain level of societal dysfunctionality with alcohol and we have demonstrated it can’t be changed. We have accepted that to pay tax dollar-wise for the consequences of that dysfunctionality.
Just pointed out increasing a problem doesn’t make it better just more expensive for the taxpayer.

Again I don’t care what you drink, smoke, inject into yourself. It would be great if you could alone bear the consequences of your decision. However politically that’s not to be i have to pay for it & I resent it.


174 posted on 07/15/2021 9:12:47 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
1. How do yo separate out the 3rd party effects? Such as intoxicated and driving etc. Well people say we handle alcohol abuse in that regard. Yes we do, and its a problem but another intoxicant will just increase the problem.

2. Politically you're going to be forced to pay for the consequences of use. More intoxicants to choose from, more use, the more the “state” (someone) will reach into your pocket to pay for the consequences.

If legalizing marijuana will increase those problems, and thus should not be done, then criminalizing alcohol would decrease those problems, and thus should be done. Do you support criminalizing alcohol?

No I don’t!

Why not, since as I showed, the logical corollary of your marijuana argument is that there should be fewer legal intoxicants.

Obviously you didn’t read what I wrote.

Not only did I read it, I noted its logical implication for alcohol policy.

175 posted on 07/15/2021 9:18:08 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Just like in many other states, in New York there was a period of 2-3 years of de facto legalization, where DAs and mayors of major cities chose not to enforce, and in some cases openly declared as much, most marijuana charges. Meanwhile you have arch degenerates in government and media announcing every hour of every day that marijuana is going to be legalized. New York State also lurched under a flood of other states' legal marijuana products, as well as Canada's, in addition to the usual black market, during the de facto legalization period, which spurred many more weak-minded fools to subject their brains to it.

This de facto legalization could not happen outside the context of the hype and expectation surrounding impending legalization and the massive reduction in enforcement encouraged by that hype. Therefore, this period of time must be included when considering the effects of legalization.

Pantywaist dirty bong sludge lipped potheads, and the arch degenerate subversives goading them, on love to ignore this period of time and use the fact that most change happened before de jure legalization to "prove" there was little or no change by legalization. But, as I mentioned, I am immune to pro-pot smoking and vape vaggotry propaganda.

176 posted on 07/15/2021 10:08:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Rennes Templar
This is a dem tactic to pull in the youth/criminal vote.
177 posted on 07/15/2021 10:14:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Pentagon Commies flying covid infected illegals around the country - 'smallpox in blankets'...)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
New York State also lurched under a flood of other states' legal marijuana products, as well as Canada's

Evidence?

178 posted on 07/15/2021 10:36:31 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Right Wing Vegan; NobleFree

“dirty bong sludge lipped potheads” is going to be the name of my new stoner rock band.


179 posted on 07/15/2021 10:49:27 AM PDT by DollarStoreGandalf
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To: DollarStoreGandalf
I've left my dirty bong sludge lipped pothead days far behind; now I'm just an arch degenerate subversive.
180 posted on 07/15/2021 11:22:39 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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