America Has Lost The Trade War With China, And The Real Pain Has Yet To Begin

Of Two Minds ^ | 7-25-2021 | Charles Hugh Smith

[ducttape45]

Which is why manufacturing of our common goods should have never been exported overseas. Everything we purchase should be grown and made here in the USA. Now countries like China have us over a barrel because all they got to do is cease shipping everything the common shopper uses and the store shelves will be empty.

[palmer]

How much of that rise is from inflation?

[TwelveOfTwenty]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

We've poured tons of money into the communists' infrastructure and military, while borrowing money from them to pay for ours.

We sent our technology over there to be stolen. Were we really stupid enough to believe that wouldn't happen?

We chose foreign workers over our own Vets. That's right. We, the flag waving patriots, chose communists over American Vets. Now we have a homeless Vet problem.

We sent our kids to college to get tech degrees, then shipped the tech jobs out of the country. I know about the kids with their useless degrees in homosexuality in homo-sapiens studies, but many got into debt for tech jobs only to watch those jobs get shipped out of the country. Now they're out there rioting instead of holding down jobs. What did we think would happen?

All of this to save $.10 on communist made paint brushes.

[saintgermaine]

The US has lost the (trade) War without a shot being fired. All the fancy hardware from the latest in aircraft carriers to stealth war planes and the latest tanks are not of much use when the country is being run by a bunch of crooked, corrupt politicians. It is the spirit and idealism what makes a country great and without it, it is a given that it will fail

[amihow]

Five years ago I was ridiculed, even on FR for talking about corporatist globalist Republican candidates which meant everyone but Trump.

Trump broke up that small group. But the managerial class and the political class are still around. They are from both political parties and every type of corporation .

Their goal is money and power over us first and the world ultimately.

Wipe every single one of them off their path to power by talking, voting boycotting. Teach your neighbors to do the same. Open small neighborhood business. Garden. Build. Make things Teach others.

Add on please

[sauropod]

Bump

[Fester Chugabrew]

If only the citizens of China who yearn for liberty would throw off the yolk of communism. Same holds for a good many in the USA.

[metmom]

Prepper ping.

[metmom]

I’m doing my share in growing food here.

I just can’t make everything we need.

[rollo tomasi]

In 1971 the final writing was on the wall, the United States/Western Civilization was to be a cuck while China is the controlling whore.

Nixon then began masturbating in the corner along with the United Nation's as they watched the PRC screw the world. We have been cucks ever since because of this worship of globalism or whatever twisted "free market" that arose from the degeneracy of supporting godless communists over the Republic of China who at least recognized Christ (Two of their leaders were Christians which is saying a lot in an Asian country).

Nixon's grave should be dug up and whatever remains left should be placed north, south, east, and west to remind generations of what a traitorous piece of crap he was.

[jpsb]

Let’s say 10 companies make widgets here in America. And just one of those companies moves production to China.

That is exactly what tariffs are for. Back in the day we knew that and used them. Oh and guess what? China also uses tariffs to protect it's domestic industries.

[Leaning Right]

> That is exactly what tariffs are for. <

Right. Our politicians reduced or eliminated tariffs. Then they burdened our domestic companies with high taxes, smothering regulations, etc.

China really couldn’t ask for more.

[Gen.Blather]

“Nixon’s grave should be dug up and whatever remains left should be placed north, south, east, and west to remind generations of what a traitorous piece of crap he was.”

Nixon was trying to isolate the Soviet Union. What happened later isn’t his fault. He succeeded and probably hastened the fall of the Soviets by a good decade or more. The problem was, everyone thought that China would follow South Korea, Taiwan and other dictatorships into more classically liberal and free societies. It worked for them, why not China? Because technology changed enabling China to strengthen its hold. Also, the CCP was much more brutal than the other dictatorships...possibly smarter, too. It’s just too simple to blame it all on Nixon. Every political move made is tailored for its particular moment in time. But that moment moves on...

[rollo tomasi]

Taiwan (Are they even a recognized sovereign country in the grand scheme of things) relies on China for a hefty percentage of their downstream exports. However, in the semiconductor/microchip world the West has been desperatly trying to protect Taiwan yet won't go all in for Taiwan.

First question, why is that?

Second, is this not setting up like a embargo of sorts with the West shutting out Chinese firms trying to buy-out Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company?

Third, say China calls the West's bluff and invades Taiwan (Who the UN does not recognize) as a response to this "suppression"/protection of the semiconductor/microchip industry, should US men and women spill their blood over that?

Fourth question, with all the US resources and minds why is this the current trend in semiconductors/microchip manufacturing?

[rollo tomasi]

Any sane economist knew the USSR was not viable in the long-term. The internal leadership was a joke (Because the damned Politburo was too busy stabbing each other in the back to gain control) as well as their economy due to demographics for instance. Nixon/UN chose to side with the Chinese devil for short-term political expediency and deserve hell because of the consequences they unleashed. BYW, the USSR and China had one thing in common yet let us just fellatio that one thing in common (And the UN actually got pissed about that). For that, Nixon deserved everything he got.

[ducttape45]

I’m trying to stock up on things like crackers, tuna, peanut butter, bottled water, stuff that will keep several months. Sure, it’s not a four course meal, but at least I’ll have something to eat and drink.

[cymbeline]

“Containerized shipping where one ship can carry 57 miles of containers lined up end to end is an overwhelming trade juggernaut.”

I agree. The world has too much interdependency. I read somewhere that the cost to ship halfway around the world is $26 per ton (a number that fluctuates). That’s basically nothing.

[Keyhopper]

I did remodels on a few Walmarts. My favorite saying was, “ the only thing in here not made in china is the employees”.

[metmom]

Pasta keeps forever, as does white rice. Brown rice can go rancid after a few months unless you freeze it. It’s far more nutritious, though.

Don’t forget salt.

One thing I always thought would be a great prepper supply was something like Progresso’s canned soups. They make some great ones and they are a good deal on sale. Soups are generally well balanced and those would be a decent source of salt. One can could make a meal.

Don’t forget tea or coffee, flour, sugar, and other baking supplies. Pasta sauce is good. Canned fruit works, too.

[caww]

Well met mom, once again I’ve begun stocking up for this ‘new normal’ roller coaster affecting our commerce. Be it China or covid or whatever else this administration touches....it all rings bad!