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America Has Lost The Trade War With China, And The Real Pain Has Yet To Begin
Of Two Minds ^ | 7-25-2021 | Charles Hugh Smith

Posted on 07/25/2021 2:19:37 PM PDT by blam

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To: caww

What with all the chatter about masking and lockdowns again, I don’t see a single reason to not be prepared.

I would like to think it wouldn’t be quite as bad as last year. After all, virtually everyone was caught off guard, and the shortages were from people trying to buy two weeks worth of food all at once.

I think a LOT of people are stocking up. Least, that’s the way it looks based on what I’m seeing at places like BJ’s and Sam’s.


41 posted on 07/25/2021 8:09:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: blam

We need tariffs on all imports. After that more tariffs.


42 posted on 07/25/2021 8:17:31 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Rebelbase

Tariffs will fix everything, Short term pain and LONG TERM GAIN.


43 posted on 07/25/2021 8:19:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: redgolum
We can’t get people to work for the wages being offered.

Fixed it.

44 posted on 07/25/2021 8:20:41 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: servantboy777

A tariff forces industry back to the USA. Just do it.


45 posted on 07/25/2021 8:21:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jpsb
That is exactly what tariffs are for. Back in the day we knew that and used them. Oh and guess what? China also uses tariffs to protect it's domestic industries.

Wow, Bravo. You are a Freeper with brains nad without terminal myopia. Rare....

46 posted on 07/25/2021 8:23:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: blam; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; 300winmag; Abigail Adams; ..
Prepper Ping - Chinese manufacturing / Supply chain breakdown

Have we already changed from economic competition, and are now into purposeful supply chain breakdown (sandbagging)?
Now our national manufacturing and economic growth is being further stunted by dependence on foreign production and supply.

From the article):" China is laying siege to the USA by slowing down production and delivery of goods.
It doesn’t take much to hang up US production, just one missing item can do it.
So much stuff is sourced through China they can affect all supply chains.
Semiconductors are just the canary–because the chains are so long and complex, and specialized materials are required, etc.
But it is happening everywhere." (Emphasis mine)

"..I sent an order to China for printed circuit boards (US prices are astronomical because of various factors).
They don’t get back for a week, then they quote, then I send money, then they sit on it, then I call and they say they are having problems with some process… etc.
But all the suppliers are like this, it is not an isolated incident. They are sandbagging. "

(My comment) :
Sun Tzu, an ancient Chinese tactician is credited with saying the the best war is where there is no physical fighting,
and the enemy doesn't even realize it is under attack.
Expect more supply chain slowdowns in manufacturing, production, and retail; this will stunt and limit our economy.
Remember our national response when China, who produces most of our medications, threatened to cut back production, and then
the American government suddenly realized the extent to which we were dependent on China to supply medications production ?
That, my FRiends, was a warning shot of what we can expect from our competitor nation ! .. expect more !
" Fool me once, ..shame on you !
Fool me twice,.. shame on me !

47 posted on 07/26/2021 5:07:52 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: blam

>>A handful of corporate insiders and financiers have benefited at the expense of everyone else.

I have been saying for a while now that the DC - Wall Street Axis has sold out Main Street to China. This article is just the latest in how/why.


48 posted on 07/26/2021 5:21:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: blam; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

49 posted on 07/26/2021 5:31:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

Yes, it’s pretty easy to see what things are gearing up for. Best to just stock up now, plus prices continue to escalate here too.

I don’t see any uptick at the Super Wall-mart or Sam’s club here yet but that could change. Perhaps people are just adding a few items every week so it’s not as apparent as when there was the mad rush last year. We didn’t run out in our stores though shelves got leaner for sure.


50 posted on 07/26/2021 8:49:49 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: caww

I have had several people tell me that when they go shopping, they buy just a little bit more than they actually need. Maybe about 10% more, like an extra box or two of pasta, or couple cans of veggies, fruit, soup or spaghetti sauce, etc.

That way, they can afford it, and it doesn’t raise any suspicions and nobody can accuse them of *hoarding*.

However, we both know that there are those who poo-poo the idea and just continue on mindlessly thinking everything will be fine, and at worst case scenario, they will go raid the stocks of people whom they know who have prepped.

That’s why I don’t tell anyone how much I have, and they are counting, foolishly, on people being willing to share with someone clueless enough to not prep themselves.

The most ridiculous of them just plan on blasting their way into someone’s place and taking it by force. That will not end well for them, because anyone prepped enough to store that kind of supplies, knows enough to know they need to be able to defend it.

And are ready to.


51 posted on 07/26/2021 9:27:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: metmom
Even though Campbell's soups, the really basic ones, aren't big serving sizes, I like to stock up on those. Tomato, Chicken Noodle, ones like that.

I never knew that about pasta and white rice so I'll have to check those out. I don't drink coffee but I like tea. I use sea salt, as recommended by my daughter, and yes, I have plenty of sugar, flour and cooking oils.

One thing I can't find anymore is powdered milk. I remember back in the 1980's, when I was stationed on Guam, the native milk was garbage. It literally tasted like chalk. We used to say it was "re-homogenized, recombined, regurgitated" milk. So we had to either use powdered milk, which we came to like, or milk they imported from New Zealand. It took us about a year and a half to get used to milk as made in the USA when we returned. But now I can't find powdered milk anywhere!

Of course I'm stocking up bottled water as well. Can't have enough of that. The water where I live is terrible so bottled water has become a way of life.

One thing I'm also gonna have to start doing is checking out the shelf life of many things I like to consume, see how long it will last.

52 posted on 07/26/2021 2:17:36 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: blam
There is a hierarchy to economies.

An economy is made up of three major sectors, primary, secondary, and tertiary.

The primary sector is agriculture; a nation has to feed itself. The agriculture sector is made up of wheats and grains, fruits and vegetables, meats, nuts, juices, etc. A nation without an agriculture sector will starve.

The secondary sector is industry; a nation has to be able to make things. This sector is made up of metals and ores, chemicals and materials, refining and manufacturing, intermediate and finished products, etc. A nation has to make things to grow.

The tertiary sector is services; a nation has to maintain itself to sustain. This sector is made up of the trade services (electrical, plumbing, A/C, automotive, etc.), professional services (advertising and marketing, sales, information, tourism, sciences, etc. A nation has to service its industry or it will collapse.

It is imperative that we rebuild enough domestic manufacturing to remove the national security threat of being held material hostage to a foreign country. We made ourselves energy independent, but we're giving that advantage away again.

And even now, California is diverting water away from its farmers, threatening their primary economic sectors.

-PJ

53 posted on 07/26/2021 2:33:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ducttape45

The shelf life on produce and dairy is not long. Those are the things I would check expiration dates on and abide by.

Stuff in boxes, like cereal and crackers, will do better but they are not really hermetically sealed. If you check the expiration dates on pasta, it’s surprising but usually couple years out in a box that is often barely sealed.

Recently, I have gone toT J Maxx and bought some Oxo airtight storage containers and put pasta and sugar in those.

I also have picked up canning jars, mostly at WalMart as they have the best prices, and store stuff like beans, nuts, chocolate, snd spices in them. You can stick them in the freezer, too. Problem with glass is, it breaks and then you lose everything as you cannot take the risk of ingesting a piece of glass.

I also have a vacuum sealer, which I LOVE. You can vacuum seal dry goods in those too, not just meat for the freezer.


54 posted on 07/26/2021 3:21:27 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: metmom

“Problem with glass is, it breaks and then you lose everything as you cannot take the risk of ingesting a piece of glass.”

Use a cheap twist tie baggie inside the mason jar.


55 posted on 07/30/2021 7:30:04 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: Farmerbob

Duh!

Great idea!


56 posted on 07/30/2021 9:52:56 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: blam

Not the first article that I read on this. Basically, China is ‘softly’ saying to the US, and other countries, that they’re about to ‘liberate’ Taiwan, and if any of you other countries try to stop us, you will get today’s ‘treatment’ 100-fold.


57 posted on 07/31/2021 6:00:34 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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