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Why We Lost Afghanistan: West Point cadets are ditching bed-making with this elaborate hack
Triangle News Hub ^ | 23 August 2021 | Sarah Sicard

Posted on 08/23/2021 5:56:03 PM PDT by Apparatchik

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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yes, that’s the honorable way to do things. So that one day when your word, actions, really count, you can, what? What good is your word ? Please.


21 posted on 08/23/2021 6:22:55 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: LegendHasIt
I've read about that filthy punk. Why he didn't do some serious time at Leavenworth I'll never understand. A punk like that is deserving of a volley or two of friendly fire!
22 posted on 08/23/2021 6:23:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Apparatchik

Priss pirates. Sleep in your rack, geniuses. That’s what it’s for.


23 posted on 08/23/2021 6:23:05 PM PDT by Iowa Slim
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Oh, heck I kept the bed taught with boot blousing in PNOC in Germany in the 70s. I used the dust cover blanket for sleeping and it was easy to fix everything back in shape the next morning. Remember that a breath on the brass reveals fingerprints left by the inspectors the day before....


24 posted on 08/23/2021 6:23:12 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Apparatchik
The process, which Hurst showed on TikTok,...

Seems she's documenting her West Point days on social media. She cares more about her Likes than in actually being an officer, much less fighting a war.

I can imagine her posts.

My amazing cadet uniform! Pretty cool, even if gray's not my best color.

OMG, spinach for lunch! Bleach! The things I do for my country!

Super awesome sergeant dude across the room! He can drill me anytime!

25 posted on 08/23/2021 6:23:20 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: damper99

Why isn’t there an inspection where some “fault” is found and the bed is torn apart ?


26 posted on 08/23/2021 6:23:28 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our County )
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To: ealgeone
You're not cheating. You're finding an efficiency that works as long as you're willing to put up with a little discomfort. If you got busted by the upperclass, you'd take your demerits and march for a weekend.

You have to learn to distinguish between the sstuff that matters, and the stuff that doesn't. Training all of your officers to be afraid of violating the tiniest rules is a great way to train self-important martinets. A bit of free-thinking and daring is necessary.

27 posted on 08/23/2021 6:25:56 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Apparatchik; MuttTheHoople; FatherofFive; jz638; LegendHasIt
Over fifty years ago when I was in Navy Officer Candidate School we did not sleep in our beds, but on top of them for all 18 weeks. We did not come up with the duct tape idea though and had to refresh them every morning. We adapted and improvised to meet a very compressed time schedule.

My one way of rebelling was to wear the same set of wash khakis at night for all 18 weeks.

28 posted on 08/23/2021 6:26:33 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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When I was in Air Force boot camp in the 70's, hacks to avoid taking too much time making your bed were common. Sleeping on top of the blankets was not allowed (and they kept the barracks COLD to discourage it), so most guys just slipped carefully between the sheets and hoped they wouldn't toss and turn too much.

I'll never forget the night we short-sheeted our "latrine queen" (the last guy in bed because he had to do a final cleanliness check of the showers and latrine). When he stuck his legs into his bed, the sheets tore so loudly you could have heard them in the next barracks. You have never seen a guy so pissed off. He seriously wanted to kill someone, but nobody (AFAIK) ever revealed to him who it was.

29 posted on 08/23/2021 6:27:07 PM PDT by fidelis (Defeatism and despair are like poison to men's souls. If you can't be positive, at least be quiet.)
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To: jz638

“The moment the “hack” was found out, all beds should have been tossed every night for a week. That isn’t ingenuity, that’s laziness and corruption.”

That!
If their bunks weren’t being tossed on a regular basis then someone was falling down on the job.

A buddy of mine did his USMC basic on Parris Island. By his account it took a couple of weeks for everyone to get their act together on the bed making thing, so many bunks were tossed every day.
When everyone got their act straight the DI’s didn’t toss a bunk....for two days. On the third day every bunk was tossed and they were informed that standards had tightened up.

He loved the Corps.

RIP
SSgt Ben Maxwell, USMC
Killed October 23, 1983
Beirut, Lebanon


30 posted on 08/23/2021 6:27:45 PM PDT by oldvirginian (I’m getting tired of being part of a major historical event.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
What I found out, was as I went along in Basic Training, I could easily make up my bunk in about 60 seconds.

These kids spend more time figuring out how to avoid work than actually working. Hopefully the Drill Sergeants will start trashing the sheets on any bed found "cheating". Or even better, trash every bed in the barracks except the cheater. I know my Company Commander did that at least once a week for our first month until every bed was perfect every day.

31 posted on 08/23/2021 6:28:25 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: ealgeone
I think the issue is about discipline...or the lack there of.

I was Army but I've seen a couple of videos about Navy recruit training. In one a recruit had failed to do something he had been trained to do and the CPO,while chewing him out,shouted something like "what are you gonna do when you're an F-18 mechanic on a carrier? Are you gonna do it your way,or the way you were trained to do it?" He made a pretty good point.

32 posted on 08/23/2021 6:29:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Apparatchik

The academies are bull shit. Turn out idiots for the most part.

I went though Air Force OTS in early 60’s for three months and learned all there is to be an officer. Solved bed making problem by making bed perfectly..once.. then sleeping on floor rest of the time.


33 posted on 08/23/2021 6:30:49 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ETCM
How is it cheating? We weren't *ordered* to sleep under our sheets. But we *were* ordered to have our racks squared away NLT 0530.
34 posted on 08/23/2021 6:32:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
You have to learn to distinguish between the sstuff that matters, and the stuff that doesn't.

*****

So YOU get to decide which orders are important and which ones aren't??

35 posted on 08/23/2021 6:33:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Apparatchik

Comforters?!? We had wool blankets.


36 posted on 08/23/2021 6:33:35 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Ignore their cute eyes and soft purring - our cats want to KILL us and EAT us.)
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To: Bonemaker

On the floor? Yikes,you must have been hard core!


37 posted on 08/23/2021 6:33:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: damper99

We got marched down for linen exchange. I guess West Point has maid service.


38 posted on 08/23/2021 6:34:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MuttTheHoople

What I found out, was as I went along in Basic Training, I could easily make up my bunk in about 60 seconds. Forget sleeping on top wearing only my Army sweat clothes...


What I found out at Annapolis in 1977 was that you absolutely did not want to get caught sleeping on top of your bed. That was a punishable offense right there. Demerits were handed out like party favors for doing stupid stuff like that.


39 posted on 08/23/2021 6:35:38 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: FatherofFive

“That is really sad”

Very common. We did it in boot camp and OCS both. It was forbidden in neither.


40 posted on 08/23/2021 6:37:17 PM PDT by dsc (...let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us...)
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