Posted on 10/02/2021 9:09:06 AM PDT by EBH
As Chief Justice Roberts said about the ObamaNoCare question, it is a mandatory “fee” and thus not a “tax.” Or similar idiotic contusion.
That’s no better! It’s still a loud Hell! No!!
1Well said - thank you!
that is why they want the 80 billion increase for IRS budget.
Gee, my odometer is broken, or was broken and may be again.
The digital odometer on my 2001 F150 rarely lights up but if I ever want to know the mileage, I can just plug in my scan tool and read it off of the PCM.
That’s likely the way it would be done in an inspection anyway. If a state or locale has emissions as part of the vehicle inspection, I think they normally do plug in a scan tool to check for emission related codes. They don’t rely on looking at your check engine light because the bulb could be out.
The PCM gets mileage from the same sensor that tells your transmission when to shift and makes adjustments to spark timing, fuel/air amounts and other things. Your vehicle wouldn’t even drive if that sensor was out or if it did drive, it would be with the transmission in limp(home or to shop) mode leaving you 2nd gear and reverse only.
All of the above is true on my 20 year old truck. Just think what electric vehicles will be like in another 20 years. They may beam data up to satellites on a constant basis. GPS, mileage, MPH.
Once the govt starts something it rarely ends. Technically there is no mileage tax. This bill means there will be one as soon as they can get it done, which will be easy once they can say they’ve done the pilot program that proves it will be wonderful, popular and save many lives.
The study would be for how to tax unlicensed vehicles, and how to get people to pay the tax in advance in between license plate renewal dates.
“The current fed tax is 18.3 cents per gallon.”
Plus 22 cents in state tax here.
Yeah but how often when you renew your license does anybody from the government even get near your car? Here in AZ unless you’re in Tucson or Phoenix you don’t need emissions testing. And even in the cities for newer cars you only need emissions after a few years. Renewals happen on the web, hit the form, fill out the credit card, wait for your tags. They gonna ask me for an odometer reading? Looks like I went 100 miles last year.
The infrastructure to do this kind of tax nationally just isn’t there. And would takes years and lots of money to put in place. Even more years cause it’s the government doing it. Took em 20 years to get standardized ID in place. And that’s just a matter of getting the states to use a certain format for IDs. For this tax if they started the effort tomorrow it might be in place by 2075.
This is the kind of thing that is likely to be flagged as a major impediment to a mileage-based tax when this "study" outlined in the Federal transportation reauthorization bill is completed.
Idiots! What’s it going to cost to implement and enforce??? Mileage report readers, odometer police… a bigger boondoggle than their IFTA that saddles the trucking industry with this mile millstone.
At just 20 mpg it’s a $1.60 per gallon tax on gas when it’s 0.41 $ now federal plus each state’s added tax, no that much and a hell of a lot easier to collect.
More senseless government jobs to prop up a failed fraudulent administration a win win for like I say idiots
“...but the actual taxes are only paid to the government by fewer than 15-20 major wholesale fuel distributors around the country.
You’ll notice they didn’t mention what the limitations were on mileage or even if mileage is going to be used. They don’t have to determine by gas purchase at the pump. They can just bug your credit card for purchases and take a percentage over an expense they determine. Insurance is done that way right now for miles. And in time they can get you for parts sales and service with the chip in the card. They’ll hack you. Now if you use cash, then they will have to bug the car itself with a chip in the onboard. We’ve come a long way since sperry. I’m not sure it’s in the right direction. Cartapping has been available with GPS for years.
wy69
The bastards have got us where they want us. We have to stoop to their level. They cheat and lie. We will also. We have to do something to survive. War is out of the question. They have all the fire power and I think that’s what they are pushing for.
We must get that away from them. No commie near the ‘red button’.
I propose a mandate that before any Congressman (oops person) must read all 10,000 pages. They must also be able to prove that all 10,00 pages were read.
They cheat and lie. We will also…..we don’t really have a choice. Any who think this can be done politely are dreaming a bit, I think
And they only have us in the position we’re in because of the usual suspects…..McConnell Graham Boehner Ryan Cantor et al.
Yes but that’s a separate issue.
And to insure that you don’t “disconnect” your odometer, they will mandate a GPS tracker to monitor your actual mileage. “It’s for the children... “ (Greta?]
Or they can just print money until the system collapses.
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