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Feds move ahead with plan to block Alaska forest logging
The Associated Press ^ | November 18, 2021

Posted on 11/18/2021 7:41:34 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good for them. The people wanted Trump gone and he is. They replaced him with one of their choice. So be it. The sheep are happy.


21 posted on 11/18/2021 8:26:21 PM PST by sport
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To: realcleanguy

missteps are accidental, this is on purpose. This is the face of communism, this is the face of the Dim party. I hope the Democrats get a belly full and vote them out for a hundred years, which is about how long it will take to repair the damage.


22 posted on 11/18/2021 8:43:43 PM PST by Paperpusher
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To: AZJeep
when you do a clear cut, you create wildlife habitat. An animal cafeteria.

A forest of big trees is nice to look at, but it is a desert of trees with little food for critters.

23 posted on 11/18/2021 8:45:58 PM PST by Mogger
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To: Mogger

Well I will be danged!

Someone who gets it on here and not the fire bugs I usually see inhabiting these threads.


24 posted on 11/18/2021 8:49:43 PM PST by crz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Part of the psychotic COP 26 circle jerk was a resolution to bar products from countries that allowed “deforestation.” This appears to be a demented attempt to cooperate, or at least to signal virtue with this useless geegaw of a resolution.


25 posted on 11/18/2021 8:49:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Mogger

You must have read Northwest Passage.
Or work in the forest products industry.


26 posted on 11/18/2021 8:50:41 PM PST by crz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Feds this...Feds that...
F the Feds


27 posted on 11/18/2021 8:54:44 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: crz

The Feds were never supposed to control that land in the first place. Owning land is not in the constitution.


28 posted on 11/18/2021 9:50:05 PM PST by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: sport

“Good for them. The people wanted Trump gone and he is. They replaced him with one of their choice. So be it. The sheep are happy.”

This is something we need to “rub in the face” of every anti Trump voter, regardless of their political affiliation.

“You voted for this?”

As the Biden/Harris virus continues its destruction.


29 posted on 11/18/2021 9:50:20 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Tongass gets a huge amount of rain, much of the slopes are steep. Road building that can survive costant washouts is very expensive.

The loggers have a history of spending their money on lobbyists to avoid road construction regulations once an area is opened up.

Go to all the clearcuts that have never been replanted as required by law. See the weedy trees and bushes that take over and prevent dominant speciaes like Sitka Spruce from reforesting.

Then take the Alaska ferry to Skagway and you might feel the Tongass should be left alone.


30 posted on 11/18/2021 10:02:34 PM PST by gandalftb
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To: bray

“Those were the days, my friend”.....
They ended far too soon. There seems to
be one thing which was found in short supply;
that would be intelligence with honesty closely
following.


31 posted on 11/18/2021 10:27:21 PM PST by V K Lee (Our Founding Fathers were wise men yet not wise enough to include EVERYTHING in our Constitution. )
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To: Mogger

Yes, the big trees basically kill all other life forms.
As peaceful the forest looks like, it is constant, slow, but ruthless fight for life. Most tress, grasses and bushes are being killed by being deprived of the light. Survivor of the fittest and strongest battle is going on.
At the end, only few large trees remind.
Everything else is dead.
These survivors are really great for lumber though.


32 posted on 11/19/2021 5:26:01 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: gandalftb

Eventually, the strongest will survive. The natural evolution of the forest!
New forest starts with bunch of quick growing, weedy plants, but these will slowly loose the fight to the stronger, but slower growing, dominant trees. The weedy plants will be gone in few years. And, this fight makes for better lumber! Trees which need to fight for life, grow straight, clean and tall. Stand alone trees are useless for lumber!


33 posted on 11/19/2021 5:33:39 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: digger48

That would fit with his degraded mental condition or insanity. We’re very worried here, we have a Seattle liberal plan, one of many affecting the Coast where I live, called the Wild Olympics. It’s a plan to expand the Olympic National Forest by some ungodly amount of thousands and thousands of acres of timber farms.

Add that to the criminally negligent Spotted Owl protections that proved disastrous not only to the communities but for the Spotted Owl itself and you can see why we’re worried with everything Brandon and his puppeteers do. The Spotted Owl lived in harmony with the timber farms sort of like the Shark and the Remora Fish until some wealthy Seattle liberals decided they didn’t like seeing clear cut parcels of land as they drove through the area and decided to “fix” the situation.

Land managers selectively harvest sectors just like a farmer manages his crops. Clear cut a sector and for 20 or so years (before the newly planted trees create a dense canopy), creates a meadow and the Spotted Owls used those meadows as hunting grounds.

The meadows attract Pheasants, Grouse and other birds, mice, voles rats, you get the picture. Then came the worrisome stupid liberals, strike that, evil liberals, if they didn’t know what they were doing was wrong they should have listen to the locals who have been working the land for a couple of hundred years. Instead the optics of temporary stump farms, until the trees grew back to hide them, was more important than the lives of humans and the Owls that lived together for centuries.

The Spotted Owl protection ceased tree cutting and all the food the Owls thrived upon was suddenly looking like a grocery store shelf during the scamdemic, however, this situation created the perfect environment for the Bard Owl.

The Bard Owl is bigger and guess what it’s food choice is…wait for it…The Spotted Owl! Now the same Feds and state environmental Stasi who destroyed a part of the state with liberal foolishness are back using trained hunters to seek and shoot every Bard Owl in the Olympic National Forest and in the State Department of Natural Resources land that adjoins the park.

Now they want to expand the non-use policy even more. The stupidity of liberals is infinite.


34 posted on 11/19/2021 5:57:21 AM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: bray

They control it as a trust. Each state can simply declare the trust as being violated by the federal agencies and take the trust over.

Its up to each state..all they have to do is have the guts to do it.

BTW, ask these c-sackers how much of that money taken in for timber sales and from other federal land activities is supposed to go for local school districts.

20%

That is how they sold this scam back in TRs day. It was a lie then, and continues to be a lie.


35 posted on 11/19/2021 6:39:05 AM PST by crz
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To: AZJeep

It is called...a climax forest. Will stay the same forever if nothing happens to change it. What is changing them now is forest fire. The result of lack of logging.


36 posted on 11/19/2021 6:41:21 AM PST by crz
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To: AZJeep

BTW Az. There is only ONE renewable type of energy. Bio mass.


37 posted on 11/19/2021 6:42:43 AM PST by crz
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To: crz

It’s not even a trust. They were supposed to turn it over to the states to sell to the people. At the end of the Civil War they changed it to the Fed becoming the owner of those lands and minerals.


38 posted on 11/19/2021 6:46:22 AM PST by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: bigfootbob

Thank you for the reply

Interesting stuff


39 posted on 11/19/2021 2:58:17 PM PST by digger48
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