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Get Woke, Empty the Pews
Powerlineblog ^ | November 20, 2021 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 11/20/2021 9:44:58 PM PST by Belteshazzar

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The author ends the article thus: "Many of my friends have left the ELCA, unwilling to support its ill-informed leftism. I hate to give up on the institution, but one of these days we likely will follow them."

Why do you hate to give up on it? I don't get it. Giving up on the hopelessly corrupt, radically progressive ELCA and giving up on the Lutheran Church are entirely different things. The former is no longer Lutheran, no longer Christian. It is political ideology hiding behind the skirts of the Christian church (though not very well). The latter still lives on, believing, teaching, and confessing the same truth she has for last 500 years.

1 posted on 11/20/2021 9:44:58 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Belteshazzar

Follow Jesus. Denominations be damned.


2 posted on 11/20/2021 9:47:14 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Belteshazzar

Who in their right mind would be a member of a religious organization that elects some post menapausal Marxist old lady as its leader?


3 posted on 11/20/2021 9:49:36 PM PST by allendale
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To: vpintheak

Getting to be as bad as the government schools.


4 posted on 11/20/2021 9:51:32 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: Belteshazzar

The church of Sardis or Laodecia?


5 posted on 11/20/2021 9:52:42 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Belteshazzar

We left our church of 27 years because it suddenly and abruptly went woke during the pandemic (wouldn’t even reopen) and then during the summer of 2020 when it was overly sympathetic to Antifa and BLM and the riots, and then especially after Jan 6—their comments about the Christians there on the Mall were the final straw.

We’ve never returned after Jan 6, and found and joined a new church.

Simple as that.


6 posted on 11/20/2021 9:53:21 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: Belteshazzar

I am a faithful Lutheran as well - and go to a conservative Biblical Lutheran Church. You are right, the ELCA is neither Lutheran nor Christian... he should give up already as there is nothing there but falsehood. True Lutheran Christian Churches exist-he should go join one.


7 posted on 11/20/2021 10:03:43 PM PST by One4Life (It's all about control )
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To: Belteshazzar

Worship is no longer worship when it reflects the culture around us more than the Christ within us.


8 posted on 11/20/2021 10:05:50 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: allendale
Or had as it's founder a vicious anti Semite?
9 posted on 11/20/2021 10:12:28 PM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Belteshazzar

Re: Why is the ELCA failing?

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services (LIRS) is another good reason.

LIRS is the #1 federally funded immigration NGO in the USA.

All those non-English speaking strangers being settled in your community under cloak of darkness?

Thank you, LIRS!


10 posted on 11/20/2021 10:13:32 PM PST by zeestephen
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“ Follow Jesus. Denominations be damned.”

My wife and I are devout Christians who do not attend a church. First, I am a true sabbath (Saturday) follower. We also do not like the modern day churches that act more like social clubs rather than a group of believers who just come together to worship the lord. We pray every day and try our best to live the way Jesus ants us to. I just don’t see how anyone could associate themselves with the likes of the Catholic Church, the Church of Ladder Day Saints, the Muslims, and other cults. They do not teach the gospel according to the Bible but choose to follow a populist agenda where they know what is right rather than what to scriptures teach. So I will continue enjoy a relationship with our lord in my own way rather than listen to some Church “leader” telling me that I am a bad person for not trying to save the planet from global warming. Churches of all denominations no longer have concern for the our salvation at heart so I will continue to be my own church.


11 posted on 11/20/2021 10:29:24 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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Re: Martin Luther's anti-Semitism

I think it is fair to point out that most of Luther's anti-Jew vehemence developed after his health began to fail, and he was in chronic pain.

Also, Luther's anger appears to be 100% ideological, not racial.

Luther held similar views in regard to Muslims, Catholics, and non-Protestant Christian sects.

12 posted on 11/20/2021 10:42:10 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Belteshazzar

Female bishops finished off the Episcopal church too. Concern about sin and salvation was replaced by the social justice gospel.


13 posted on 11/20/2021 10:43:24 PM PST by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: Belteshazzar

I’ll probably be vilified for this but as someone in my 60’s I’ve made an observation that most women over 60 are bitter old bitties. Most are no fun or even interesting to be around.

I would like to think most Freeper ladies over 60 are the exception.


14 posted on 11/20/2021 10:52:52 PM PST by Boomer (Leftism is a mental illness wrapped in a perverse ideology resulting in insanity. FJB)
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To: Belteshazzar
Blow up your t.v. throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try and find Jesus on your own
–John Prine – Spanish Pipedream
15 posted on 11/20/2021 11:23:49 PM PST by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Belteshazzar

Because he’s just like Lot’s wife.


16 posted on 11/20/2021 11:24:41 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: vpintheak

THERE YA GO!

(just wish I was better at it)


17 posted on 11/20/2021 11:43:34 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: vpintheak

Bible believing Christian’s will have an impossible task reconciling those two statements.


18 posted on 11/21/2021 12:56:01 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: TonyM

Churches of all denominations no longer have concern for our salvation at heart so I will continue to be my own church.

Now there is a blanket statement without a shred of proof, but with a personal solution that is not biblical.


19 posted on 11/21/2021 1:03:54 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: vpintheak

Amen!!


20 posted on 11/21/2021 1:44:11 AM PST by aces (and )
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