Destroyed Russian T-72B3 tank from from Russian 6th Tank Brigade in village of Chervonosel’skoe.
Two servicemen of Russia’s 6th Tank Division taken prisoner:Ivan Badanin and Evgeny Chernov
Posted on 12/13/2021 8:42:30 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
You are easily decepted by optics.
Russia recognizes the US sovereignty over Ukraine, except opposes the basing of NATO forces where.
That’s because the Russian intelligence believes that USAF deployed Tomahawk in Poland, already tipping the strategic balance in terms of second strike procedures.
The Tomahawk in Ukraine would be further escalation, where the decision on second strike needs to be made in second after a detection of the threat. That’s moving the responsibility down on the chain of command or outright automation of it.
It is relatively naive to believe that only the Europe is going to get nuked, the mainland US of course is going to get nuked at the same time.
I think once it starts all players join in
That’s dated take. There is a land link with Crimea in form of the Kerch bridge. All the shipyards in Ukraine went bankrupt since 2014 and cut for scrap. Russia over that period developed its own shipyards on Batlic and in the Far East, capable to build anything. FYI in Q3 2020 Russia surpassed China as a second biggest shipbuilding nation per GRT in a moment.
The Russian war plan for war in Europe envisioned every NATO country that did not have nuclear weapons being nuked (Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, ...) and every country that had nuclear weapons being spared.
Pershing II brought western Russia into range of IRBM. If employed every ammo dump and fuel depot in eastern Europe would have been vaporized, and the Russian assault through the Fulda Gap would have run out of fuel and ammo.
As part of the Intermediate Arms limitation treaty, Russia and the U.S. destroyed all of their IRBM. If the Russians want to play that game, it will be interesting to see how Germany reacts. Just what the world needs: a nuclear armed Germany.
“re-establishing some authoritarian state whose borders would roughly correspond to those of the former Soviet Union, with satellite states and buffer zones roughly corresponding to those of the former Warsaw Pact.”
I sincerely doubt they’ll get beyond the Dnieper River in the Ukraine.
The Nazicrats in this country have been crying Russia for about 20 years now.
This democrat party in the USA is the new Nazi party international. Matter of fact, they have been crying Russia since the re-emergence of the Eastern orthodox church in the former soviet countries.
So which should one choose if the choice is between the two?
I think they want a sea port that is accesible year-round. With Ukraine they would have open access to the Black Sea.
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They already took the Crimea - that where the ports are located. Its more about restoring the old Kivian Russ empire that all the other reasons.
And, what's wrong with that? He is looking out for the best interests of his nation. That is what he should be doing.
It shouldn't be any of our business so long as Putin isn't threatening to invade countries and take them over against their will, which, unlikely China, he is absolutely not doing.
All this focus on Russia is happening while we do virtually nothing about the real threat - China. China is doing what we falsely claiming Putin and Russia want to do. China enslaved the people of Hong Kong. It has threaten Taiwan. It's buying up land in this country and in other countries in the hopes of gaining economic dominance.
If anything, we should be seeking to work with the Russians to keep China in check.
There are reasons, however, the far left and globalists hate Russian. Obama, Biden and Soros have for years sought to demonize and destroy Russia. He's threat somehow to their agenda.
20% of Georgia is currently occupied by Russia. Putin already invaded southeastern Ukraine in 2014 and is now threatening to invade the rest of Ukraine.
If anything, we should be seeking to work with the Russians to keep China in check.
Every recent US administration has tried to work with Putin, he's not interested. Bush jr(saw Putin’s ‘soul.’), Obama(Hillary reset button), and Biden(Approved Nord Stream 2). The reality of Putin is that he has more in common with China's Xi than with any US President.
For example?
By Carl Bildt
Few things seem to be as recurring on the diplomatic landscape as efforts to reset relations with Russia.
The Obama administration started out with its famous reset in 2009, even coining the concept itself. Since then, European politics has been littered with the ruins of attempts to reset the relationship with Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
In 2010, a very ambitious Partnership for Modernization launched between the European Union and Russia, and the next year, German Chancellor Angela Merkel launched the Meseberg initiative to build a closer and more structured relationship on security issues between the E.U. and Russia.
The Russian aggression against Ukraine in 2014 set back these efforts, but not for long. Thereafter, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), then under Swiss chairmanship, set up an Panel of Eminent Persons to try to pave the way for a reset.
Following his rather critical remarks on relations across the Atlantic in the summer of 2019, French President Emmanuel Macron initiated an ambitious strategic dialogue with Moscow, dispatched ministers to Moscow and set up working groups.
And now, new E.U. High Representative Josep Borrell has made his own much-discussed journey on this well-trodden path.
The results of all these efforts have been more or less the same — at best nothing and at worst a further deterioration of the relationship.
There are of course important areas of selective engagement and cooperation with Russia that have survived this gradual deterioration. The Biden administration has revived the dialogue on strategic stability and nuclear issues, and Europe is keen to talk to Russia on restoring the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action agreement with Iran, climate change and other multilateral issues.
But a few swallows don’t make a summer. And time after time, other events — the Novichok attack in Britain; the recurring cyberattacks against, among others, parliaments in Germany and Norway; the refusal to engage on the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17; or, most recently, the attempt to poison Alexei Navalny and subsequently deflect blame — have derailed attempts to bring the relationship on a more constructive path.
Damaging to the relationship as these events have been, the underlying reason for the serial failure of the frequent reset attempts lies in the fact that there are fundamental issues where Russia flatly refuses to reset its own policies, and instead sees any discussion as an opportunity to press Europe to retreat on its policies and principles.
From the European point of view, by far the biggest barrier is Russia’s policies in its immediate neighborhood. The recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent countries, as well as the aggression against Ukraine with first the annexation of Crimea and then the establishment of a Russian statelet in Donbas, are violations of fundamental principles of European security.
In 2016, when the E.U. set up some principles to base its relations with Russia on, the first was the full respect for the Minsk agreement on the restoration of Ukraine’s territorial integrity in Donbas. So far, the Kremlin hasn’t been willing to take any credible steps in this direction.
The Kremlin’s expectations with its attempts at dialogue on issues of European security are twofold. First, it wants to have recognized, directly or indirectly, a right to have a say in the policies of its immediate neighbors, de facto reducing their sovereignty. Second, it wants to get rid of existing OSCE and other commitments to human rights and thus be allowed a free hand to repress its citizens at will.
The lessons to be learned from the multitude of reset failures is that it’s only by firmly resisting these attempts that we can over time get Russia to reset its own policies. That is the only credible path to a more constructive relationship.
As former foreign minister of Moldova Nicu Popescu puts it, Russia “will be incentivized to seek a reset only when it hits the wall of Western intransigence without maintaining hope that it can circumvent such intransigence, or wait it out.” For now, he says, “offering Russia resets every other year only leads to greater Russian disregard for Western interests in eastern European security or in the Middle East.”
Then, of course, domestic issues in Russia come into play. The Partnership for Modernization was a result of the Dmitry Medvedev era, when “modernization” was the buzzword of the day in Russia. But those days are gone, and we now see a stagnating regime that is starting to fear it might be rather brittle, as the inevitable succession starts looming.
We might have to wait for Russia to undertake the domestic reset that is probably a necessary precondition for its external reset. As Kadri Liik of the European Council on Foreign Relations put it, the E.U. and the United States might have to “prepare for years of frustration in their relationship with a regime in Moscow that is slowly decaying, unable to renew itself, and fears for its survival.”
Cutting off access to the port in Crimea and the Black Sea was something Russia was going to tolerate. Nor was it going to tolerate being held up for exorbitant transportation fees for its pipelines running through Ukraine.
You're believing the same leftists/globalists/uniparty establishment types about Russia that lie about everything else.
Our WOKE military can't protect our own borders why the hell should we die protecting a corrupt Ukraine's borders?
Lets kick commie filth out of our hemisphere first... anyone notice what's happening in Nicaragua... Cuba and Valenzuela?... AND the United States?
Destroyed Russian T-72B3 tank from from Russian 6th Tank Brigade in village of Chervonosel’skoe.
Two servicemen of Russia’s 6th Tank Division taken prisoner:Ivan Badanin and Evgeny Chernov
Donetsk and Luhansk sought independence from Kiev after the Ukrainian revolution. Both should have that right and seek out assistance from Russia to preserve their independence. That price a governing authorities pay when they rely on overthrowing those that were elected.
Russians are hypocrites. They support insurrections in Ukraine but deny it at home in places like Chechnya.
really?
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