Posted on 12/16/2021 5:50:15 PM PST by lightman
At some point? 1) Virus is supposed to have come from China, whether a wet market, a bat cave or the biolab in Wuhan. 2) It's been in China, according to the laughable data as tot he laughable videos reported breathlessly early on with people collapsing in the street.
“At some point?”
Official data to assimilate from the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (last month):
China through 23 months — ( 4,849 deaths since beginning of pandemic / 1,439,323,776 Chinese citizens ) x 100 = 0.0033 %
0.0033 percent in almost two years.
And so one reads today, “At some point, the virus is going to get in the population of China and infect one billion people. It's only a matter of times.”
Two Chinese lunar years to flatten the curve....
It’s probably more than 4,849, I agree. No one knows. China is a totalitarian nation so they get to cover up things like that. But apparently since their mishap in Wuhan, they’ve closed their borders. They’ve cracked down on any positive covid cases in the country. It’s possible because we know this is China we are talking about. But even in China, at some point the virus is going to outmaneuver their defenses and infect a huge percentage of the population.
How do you know that, predicting the future? That is speculation, as is so much else.
What we do know is that the Fauci-led pandemic response has been about the worst in the world in terms of official;y tallied deaths as in terms of economic damage due to lockdowns and — yes — speculations, which began with those famous “two weeks.” Almost two years ago, now.
Even if 100% of US citizens get vaxed...they can still contract and transmit COVID. These ‘vaccines’ are not like legacy vaccines and were never designed to stop you from still getting it...only to have less severe symptoms.
That is stops you from getting and transmitting it is the big lie...and it is more true with every variant.
I love Ben...but he’s arguing from a position of ‘pure science’ which doesn’t exist anymore...everything is politized. So many have blood on their hands...
There's a lot of elderly people in China and they haven't been infected yet. So two things need to happen. China needs to develop a vaccine that is superior to what we have been using so far. The vaccines we have are working but they are less effective over time and if you are old, even less so. Or wait until covid mutates into a variant that is less deadly so the population can acquire herd immunity. The CCP is continuing to pursue zero covid strategy because they do not have the health care infrastructure to handle covid surges.
Pffft. What does a medical doctor know? Only bureaucrats can lead us to utopia
Looks like Dr Carson will be banned from Twitter for this heresy.
It’s true, Dr. Carson is right.
Politicians destroy everything they touch, and they touch pretty much everything these days. Politicians want problems unsolved, even exacerbated. They get rich that way.
You vaxx apologists have no shame even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
I guess there is a reason you don’t include any information about the doses advertised for, and available for use by, humans. They do exist, after all. I guess including that wouldn’t mesh with your agenda.
China probably counting COVID only deaths...or do we believe anything coming out of China ?
An amazing assertion, presented as if a truth. How could you know that “a lot of elderly people haven't been infected yet?”
You and others have already stated that the data from China seems bogus. Johns Hopkins University and Worldometer present the data as if a true report. You “data” is what, exactly, if not coming from the “official” data?
— “The CCP is continuing to pursue zero covid strategy....”
Really? And have you a source for this statement as well?
Your statement continues, “because they do not have the health care infrastructure to handle covid surges.”
Over these last years we have heard that even the US hasn't had such infrastructure, as I recall the New York State cry for help, as surges were unmanageable. And yet the Navy hospital ship, as one example in a number of examples, went hugely under-used. Now, after firing healthcare workers, we hear similar cries of ICUs overwhelmed. Sounds like the Fauci-led pandemic response isn't much better.
Nestled in your response, “The vaccines we have are working but they are less effective over time....”
“Safe and effective” becomes “less effective,” eh? Less safe?
Immunizations immunize. The term vaccine has been redefined to fit the mRNA clinical trials which continue, shielding mRNA manufacturers from legal liability. The experiment here is an experiment, period. And you testify that these are “less effective” over time. This is your argument, as you prescribe what the Communists should do in China.
Given the seeming “mild” character of the “Omicron,” your other remark seems already happening around the world. You say “Or wait until covid mutates into a variant that is less deadly so the population can acquire herd immunity.” If that's a part of your plan for the CCP, I'd say we should adopt your plan instead of the Fauci-led, deadly pandemic response in the US.
Herd immunity. Sounds from the official sources as if it has been an ongoing phenomenon as one refers to "official" data.
Global deaths as of 14 December 2021 https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ ( 5,317,396 deaths / 7,913,375,702 world population ) x 100 = 0.0672 % over a period of two years
The pandemic is "official" and its effect worldwide has been to kill 0.0672 % of the world's population over a period of two years.
My view is that herd immunity is already here, and the pandemic should have been declared over.
Your view, as I repeat it: "There's a lot of elderly people in China and they haven't been infected yet."
You know this because....
But additionally, the Biden administration's Fauci-led pandemic response is so filled with fabrications and obfuscation, it to should be held suspect. Ditto with the WHO, Imperial College and the SAGE advisors to the UK government, Johns Hopkins and Washington's IMHE, and an FDA pursuing mRNA gene therapy experiments on children.
I'll add that the Corman-Drosten PCR test written in January of 2020 two months before the pandemic was declared and the WHO's April paper showing how to code COVID-19 into higher rankings in death certificates with newly created codes just for that purpose are two of the elements which underlie the skepticism I hold for the whole.
I repeat for emphasis using "official" data -- Global deaths as of 14 December 2021 https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/
( 5,317,396 deaths / 7,913,375,702 world population ) x 100 = 0.0672 % over a period of two years
0.0672 % of the world's population "COVID" dead over a period of two years
To get there the "event" needed "from" and "with." And an avalanche of money to encourage the event from the CARE act.
Who weaponized the successfulness of that drug...propaganda from the MSM and liberals including doctors who knew better...politics and medicine don't mix, people can die. Remember it is the flu season, do not mix that with Covid...do not be afraid to be Merry and Bright, 'tis the season, just wash your hands more often....follow Dr. Carson, he is on the right path....Masks? Where is the science.
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