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Trump says American Jews ‘either don’t like Israel or don’t care about Israel’
Times of Israel ^ | TIO Staff

Posted on 12/17/2021 12:45:33 PM PST by Fuzz

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To: MattMusson
#33:
Reality Check - Ashkenazi Jews brought the love of socialism and communism with them from Eastern Europe.

Sephardic Jews coming from the Middle East have never been big fans of social tyranny."

That's quite true. It's amazing how many far, far left judges, university professors, and politicians are of Ashkenazi descent.

Conservative Ashkenazi are quite rare, but I knew an Ashkenazic guy who fought with Patton's army all across Europe. The guy was conservative to the core, and loved Nixon and the USA. He hated commies. Of course his favorite movie of all time was Patton.

41 posted on 12/17/2021 1:41:17 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Fuzz

I’m a Christian evangelical who visited Israel in 2019—there were Trump billboards everywhere! It was too funny. I noticed lots of young kids: Israelis are trying to have kids as fast as possible to catch up with the Palestinians around them.

I loved the trip—LOTS of Christian tourists everywhere.


42 posted on 12/17/2021 1:44:34 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: Jewbacca

“As an Israeli, I’d say he’s about 60% correct.”

From the wiki. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews )
In 2013, Pew Research’s Jewish population survey found that 35% of American Jews identified as Reform, 18% as Conservative, 10% as Orthodox, 6% who identified with other sects, and 30% did not identify with a denomination.

Which 40% still love Israel? The Reform, Reconstructionist, Conservative, and/or Orthodox?


43 posted on 12/17/2021 1:47:15 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Fuzz

The dnc media will play this up as a racist or anti Semitic comment, but most Americans will plainly see that he once again speaks the truth that the leftist media and elites deny.


44 posted on 12/17/2021 1:49:06 PM PST by Nicojones
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To: JonPreston

It’s from radical Leftist Barak Ravid, who hates Trump and Bibi. Well known.

Video - audio or it never happened


45 posted on 12/17/2021 1:56:15 PM PST by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

There is audio. Follow the link to hear it.


46 posted on 12/17/2021 2:03:05 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: Jonty30

So what?

He was raised and baptized Lutheran and knew nothing of Judaism.


47 posted on 12/17/2021 2:09:22 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"...Are plenty of Jewish people socialist? Sure, just like gentiles...."

How many Gentiles were involved in the writing of The Communist Manifesto? Or Das Kapital?

Would there ever have been a single entirely communist state absent the groundwork laid by Karl Marx? Or Leon Trotsky? Or VI Lenin, who wasn't matrilineally Jewish but the NKVD/KGB recorded that he did have a Jewish grandfather.

Two of the largest parties in the Knesset today claim to be social democrats. Yes, America's congress has a growing socialist contingent but they are a late development. Israel's socialists have been there from its founding. Israel's first PM was a social democrat, and his party morphed into today's social democratic Labor Party, which holds one seat more in the Knesset than that also social democratic party, the Meretz.

Not to mention the kibbutzes, socialist collective farms Jewish pioneers created in what would become Mandatory Palestine, and the founding of which predates the founding of the USSR.

If socialism is anathema to Jews, I think quite a few of the them didn't get the memo.

And I rather doubt you wold label me an anti-Semite since I have nothing but respect and admiration for Jews on the whole, plus I am pro-Israel and pro-Zionism. But despite that I recognize that the Jews have a disquietingly cozy relationship with socialism, if not out-and-out communism.

48 posted on 12/17/2021 2:12:49 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Jewbacca

I’m just saying that secular Jews hate His, but love His promises. So, they try and fulfill His promises on an earthly level but keep Him out of their lives

Why do you think the left hates religious Jews enough to kill every one of them?
When the left pushes for Israel to take in the Palestinians, they know know very well the first thing that the Palestinians would do is kill every Jew that they could get their hands on.

Why do you think that is?


49 posted on 12/17/2021 2:14:47 PM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is likeearh me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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To: Fuzz

The headline is erroneous and does not represent what Trump said. He saud that ‘many’ Jews do not care much about Israel. The headline implies he said it about all Jews.


50 posted on 12/17/2021 2:25:31 PM PST by Gumdrop (Prpmotiong)
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To: Paal Gulli

I never said that, I think you responded to me by accident..what you posted above I NEVER said


51 posted on 12/17/2021 2:25:42 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Paal Gulli
How many Gentiles were involved in the writing of The Communist Manifesto? Or Das Kapital?

Would there ever have been a single entirely communist state absent the groundwork laid by Karl Marx? Or Leon Trotsky? Or VI Lenin, who wasn't matrilineally Jewish but the NKVD/KGB recorded that he did have a Jewish grandfather.

Karl Marx was an atheist ex-Lutheran, so he would probably qualify as a gentile, especially in the mind of one poster on this board who insists than any Jew who accepts Christ as his savior can no longer be considered Jewish. Trotsky was from a Jewish family but Lenin was not.

52 posted on 12/17/2021 2:29:16 PM PST by Rufii
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To: Paal Gulli
Vladimir Javotibsky founded the Lukid Party. He was verbally anti - leftist. Ben Guerieon and Labor ran Israel for 30 years, during witch it had a 3rd world economy. When Lukid took over, it began to de-socalize, and Netenyahu did this to. It is still half Socialist though.
53 posted on 12/17/2021 2:29:54 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: Fuzz

Correcto...this just lost 12 votes lol


54 posted on 12/17/2021 2:30:18 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Fuzz

I have several jewish colleagues and this is absolutely true.


55 posted on 12/17/2021 2:31:09 PM PST by throwthebumsout
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To: Jewbacca

Stand with Israel and F American Jews.I live in S Florida and know the difference.


56 posted on 12/17/2021 2:32:09 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Fuzz

It is always about Trump isn’t it. I I I did this and I I I did that. DeSantis looking better all the time.


57 posted on 12/17/2021 3:24:40 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Hope coming from Florida)
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To: JonPreston

“From where is this and the dust up with Bibi coming from?”

From his ego.


58 posted on 12/17/2021 3:27:10 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Hope coming from Florida)
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To: Fuzz

He simply expressed a belief that’s quite common among people who pay attention to the social and political views of the non-Orthodox Jews of the contemporary Diaspora.


59 posted on 12/17/2021 3:40:27 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Stay to the right and be ready to fight.)
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To: Jonty30

Half of those involved in the socialistic movements since Karl Marx have been secular Jews. They love the promises of Judaism but they don’t want to be obligated to Judaism itself.
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Wasn’t the leadership of the Russian Bolshevik Revolution Jewish?


60 posted on 12/17/2021 3:49:07 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Stay to the right and be ready to fight.)
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