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Trump says American Jews ‘either don’t like Israel or don’t care about Israel’
Times of Israel ^ | TIO Staff

Posted on 12/17/2021 12:45:33 PM PST by Fuzz

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To: Jewbacca

I felt the same way for some time. You would think that Jews, and by the way I always had a soft spot for them, would detest anything what smells like socialism after what Hitler done to them. But no, it is just like a moth being attracted to the flame of a candle. Will people ever learn?


61 posted on 12/17/2021 3:57:31 PM PST by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Yes he was.


62 posted on 12/17/2021 4:28:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is likeearh me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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To: Rufii

Lenin’s great grandfather was Jewish, interestingly enough.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/was-lenin-jewish/


63 posted on 12/17/2021 5:46:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is likeearh me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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To: Jewbacca
Socialism is not Jewish. It’s anathema to Judaism.

Yet Israel is socialist. European-style free health care, and free college, no?

Even the United States is socialist at this point. Just try repealing Medicare or SSI.

The socialism boat has sailed. Conservatives lost that one. The current political battles are crime and immigration.

64 posted on 01/05/2022 4:08:58 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

No


65 posted on 01/05/2022 5:23:58 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Fuzz

We’ve known that for decades. Once again Trump speaks the truth.


66 posted on 01/05/2022 5:45:46 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: AndyTheBear

I think Joe Lieberman might be an exception. Not sure, though.


67 posted on 01/05/2022 5:47:45 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: LuxAerterna

I have an issue with the dual citizenship situation — for everyone and not just Jews. Be an American or don’t be an American; it’s not right.


68 posted on 01/05/2022 5:51:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Jewbacca
No?

Cancer in a Country With Socialized Medicine

When I moved to Tel Aviv from Manhattan 11 years ago, the fact that Israel was a country with socialized medicine wasn't really a factor. ...

69 posted on 01/05/2022 6:22:02 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

No.

The reporter is incorrect.

Israel does not have free college.

Israel does not have “European style” (your words) free healthcare. You do have to participate in one of three or four HMO or PPO (or out version of TriCare for military). There is also a robust fully private option that is increasingly dominant.

Israel is also not a religious state, run according to Jewish law. So your fundamental point of using Israel as the arbiter of Jewish Law is just stupid. When the Sanhedrin is re made, in control, and accepted as authority, wake me.

Finally, Israel is also (too slowly for me) ridding itself of socialism it imported from Europe. The last bastion are our court system.

So, no. Literally every key underlying assumption in your post is wrong.


70 posted on 01/05/2022 6:33:28 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Paal Gulli

“How many Gentiles were involved in the writing of The Communist Manifesto?”

Both primary authors were Lutheran.

Engels was raised a devout Pietist Protestant (a really hardcore Lutheran), but became an atheist.

Karl Marx was baptized, raised, and confirmed a Lutheran, but became an atheist. He certainly knew nothing of Judaism, as his father rejected the religion long before his birth.


71 posted on 01/05/2022 7:56:39 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Rufii

Engels was the co-author of the Communist Manifesto

He was raised a Piest — a hard core group of Lutherans.

Marx was also a Lutheran, from birth.


72 posted on 01/05/2022 7:58:04 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Jonty30
He’s right and wrong. The dint like the obligations of Judaism, but they like the Jewish principles enough to want them codified in liberalism and enforced by governments.

Socialism is an earthly Judaistic movement, supported by earthly Jews.

This is utter nonsense.

Judaism doesn't have "principles." It has commandments.

The whole purpose of obeying commandments is to submit to the Divine will. And it doesn't matter whether the commandment is the most rational and easily understandable in the world (thou shalt not kill) or inexplicable like the red heifer or the broken-necked she calf. Commandments without G-d are not commandments at all.

Only stupid liberal Jews (and apparently some conservatives) believe that there is anything Jewish about socialism.

73 posted on 01/05/2022 8:12:34 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Secularism is a fraud and a failure.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You’re just being pedantic. Yes, Judaism has commandments, those who rejected God have rejected the Commandments, but they still desire the blessings of God, while rejecting God. That is why liberals, when pushed, will resort to religious arguments of charity and selflessness to justify socialism.


74 posted on 01/05/2022 4:24:16 PM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is like me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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