Posted on 02/25/2022 7:12:29 AM PST by Kaslin
It is we who are way over-extended.
Say what you will about Putin, he has put himself forward as the protector of Christianity, while we hang the LGBTQ rainbow flag on our embassy in Ukraine
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Trump, one month before the last election, made sure the world knew he was the first president to enter office supporting gay marriage. Biden was #2 ( in more ways than one).
Hopefully we have someone better to vote for in 24.
Pray that the US stays out of it. Not likely because every time Demoncrats get in office they get us in a war.
I think Trump will adopt a policy position of permanently excluding Ukraine from NATO.
Not sure how he will make this position known. There is the problem of receiving incoming fire lambasting such a position on the theory that Trump is taking it in order appease Putin’s Russia.
Trump’s basic stance has always been to avoid unnecessary overseas military cinflict. During his four years in office as POTUS he showed what he is capable of in terms of inducing a certain “peaceableness” on the part of countries that, on-and-off at least, form the roster of the United States’ “enemies” (Russia, China, N. Korea, and certain traditional antagonists toward our Middle East ally Israel, such as Syria).
Trump has time and space to breathe and will end up developing a relatively attractive and plausible proposed approach to Russia and China that will draw a great and favorable contrast to that of the Brandon administration and anything Hillary will be able to come up with.
Hopefully he also gets his act together on the gene therapy shots and recent undeniable evidence of Deep State/globalist dark-heartedness and tyranny. If so, Aretha will consent and we will end up getting the band back together.
If China takes Taiwan, we might be closer, but Russia in Ukraine, not even registering as entry into WWIII.
When you are a maritime trading state, freedom of the seas is everything. Of course because of long range air and rocketry we have evolved from strictly naval warfare doctrines to multi-dimensional warfare doctrine.
It is why we have Space Force which still makes a lot of military troglodytes gag, but you cannot have an effective use of space based on a tank commander rotating in for an 18month tour than you can have an effective marine corps by rotating in, oh, say a submarine officer.
Once again, we agree.
We are equally cynical and jaded.
And that Biden was the one who could prevent it.
Trump needs to solidify his relationship with Melania by converting to Catholicism and inviting his daughter and son-in-law to follow suit, take a trip to Hungary to rub elbows with Orban, call for a restoration of the traditional Latin mass, and walk away from the LGBTQWERTY agenda.
If Trump does all that (plus stopping all talk of Ukraine joining NATO), it’s 2024 or bust, don’t you agree?
“It is we who are way over-extended.”
With 11 aircraft carriers, I don’t think so. Our deep strike strategic air power, makes it easy not to be over extended.
The Russian GDP of Spain and per capita of half of Spain, makes the Putin delusion impossible. They will have to leave Ukrain eventually. There puppets will again be deposed in time.
Our next moves, when a Republican is President, will be opening up energy completely and compelling Germany to decouple from Russian energy. If not I look for the next President to shut down most of our German bases and forward deploy them to Baltics, Poland, Romania.
“Pray that the US stays out of it”
Biden didn’t even vote to take out Bin Laden. He isn’t going anywhere near Russia, unless Putin attacks a NATO country. Which he will not.
“I think Trump will adopt a policy position of permanently excluding Ukraine from NATO.”
Trump is not that stupid. Trump wants to stay out of wars, but he did allow Special Operations to assist in the takeout of ISIS in Syria. And when Russian Spetznaz (Wagner) attempted to attack our HQ, he turned 200 Russians into mincemeat.
Putin will not mess with Trump and did not.
No. While the invasion is very real, and is having massively bad effects on the people in Ukraine, from the standpoint of the US this is pretty much a big nothing. Biden, his administration and the Dems’ controlled media propaganda machine are making a big deal of this for the same reason that many failed leaders in many nations over thousands of years have done the same: they are creating a made-up foreign crisis to divert attention from their failures and trying to transfer the anger of their own nation on to a foreign leader or nation.
Besides, no one can afford a world war...EVERYONE is highly leveraged with debt, which is to say, broke. You really can’t fight a war in those circumstances. Even our business leaders in late 1944 and early 1945 were quietly letting the FDR Administration know that the pace of spending for WW2 was too high to be sustainable for more than another year or so. I am convinced that this is part of the reason why Truman nuked Japan - to get the war over with for economic self-preservation (and, yes, there were several other very good reason, too).
Putin will depart Ukraine when the coast is clear. Having strolled in once, he can be forgiven for thinking he can do it again if the same becomes necessary. NATO membership for Ukraine was never a realustic scenario and is now a classic dead letter. Square peg round hole type if stuff and now everybody knows it.
Which is part of our sea-power. We have not, since WWII tried to conduct carrier ops in contested areas.
Also, 11 carriers is not a lot when you consider deployment schedules, refit time, overhaul time, etc.
We don't keep 11 carriers at sea 24/7/365.
And non of that addressed the very high costs of trying to operate in places that are hard to get to because they are 1000 miles from where it is safe to put a carrier.
Oh and then go and do yourself a favor and google the public information on what Putin has done in nuclear weapons development in the last 20 years and what we have done [ans. draw down to an aging Armageddon force].
I agree that Ukriane was never going into NATO.
But to concede that to Russia is Appeasement.
Most of the LiberalTarians on FR are more weak than Biden is, but then again, they are not conservatives.
How enthusiastic do you think Trump is to bring Ukraine into NATO?
“...no one can afford a world war.. ...”
That was said in 1914.
Not predicting a war, just pointing out that statements like that historically have a way of being counter-predictive!
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