Mutinous Russian troops are overheard complaining about lack of supplies and arguing about orders to bomb civilian areas in ‘unencrypted radio messages sent to the West’

Daily Mail ^ | 3.1.2022 | Harry Howard

[2CAVTrooper]

“Not even Ivan is stupid enough to do this in the clear.”

Most of these units are reservist formations.

Putin isn’t stupid enough to commit the elite 4th Guards Tank Division until it’s time for the victory parade through Kyiv.

[Scrambler Bob]

How do you sustain a 40 mile long convoy on an open ended mission in hostile territory ?
= = =

If they had just been EV vehicles!

[larrytown]

Oh, the terrifying mighty Russian bear!

[absalom01]

ShadowBreak's founder Samuel Cardillo, 26, told The Telegraph he had been sent the messages by amateurs listening in with antennas.

Well that sounds totally believable.

Wonder if I can interest the Telegraph in a lightly used suspension bridge.

[Godzilla]

Russian troops using analog baofeng fm radios. Hear a lot of locals jamming them.

[McGruff]

Boy, the propaganda is getting deep.

[T.B. Yoits]

Unencrypted radio transmissions? Yeah, that’s called Ukrainian military making fake radio broadcasts pretending they’re dispirited Russians.

[Dr. Sivana]

Are they still using Tinder to reveal their locations and pick up Ukrainian women?

I am STILL getting e-mails daily from "lonely Ukrainian women" and "beautiful Russian women". You would think that these gals would get their priorities straight.

[Ceebass]

Somehow I get the idea that Putin didn’t send his best and brightest into Ukraine, maybe they’re even people he felt he could live without....

He doesn’t get into the weeds that far. He gives the go order and the military sends in what the op plan requires.

You are seeing incompetence in every category. Yes, they are running/ran out of fuel evidenced by numerous witness videos.

What I really can’t believe is the stupidity of the planners. When planning ops you always incorporate the worse case scenario. They thought they would be welcomed as liberators? Hardly the worse case.

Their intelligence disasters are breathtaking. They thought they’d be welcomed as liberators so jumped off half assed without sufficient supplies or topped off vehicles.

They badly underestimated the resolve of the Ukrainians who aren’t welcoming them but killing them.

They thought that NATO would bend over but instead they’ve put the economic screws to them and are shipping in lethal aid.

Now they are bogged down in quagmires in Kiev and Kharkov. If they haven’t linked up yet with the force coming up from the Crimea (which they haven’t) after 6+days, they’ve lost it.

At this point pooty should just make up some BS declaring victory and go home.

[trebb]

I thought it would be the farmers’ daughters...😎

[PIF]

The would help explain why so many Russian vehicles are now parked at Ukrainian farms.

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Many of them just need some fuel and are good to go. Others are fueled, but were abandoned Like the guy that found a T-72 and just drove it off.

Good news is the farmers and tow companies will not have to pay any Ukrainian income tax on the found vehicles because they have been so cheaply valued.

[PIF]

Well, be it as it may, we regularly picked up Boston’s WBZ and other US stations in Sinope, Turkey on skip. And its Troposphere skip, not ionosphere.

Russian low level military (troops tanks, etc) still use the same freqs they always used.

[PIF]

Yes they are, and have always done it. But nowhere near as frequently as US troops in Germany who often passed their locations in the clear. In those days, Russians who used unencrypted speech where generally shot on the spot.

[Justa]

What to believe? Listen for yourself:

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZY41aKtRoKrE8VVKRDbJDkhxyFBTkEh1A87BudQPfENf

Why don’t you go tell the Russian conscripts what to do?

https://youtu.be/P4kQvkvGi9M?t=99

[PIF]

6000 Russian soldiers killed to a couple hundred Ukrainians, civilians knocking out tanks, miles of burnt out Russian vehicles, the Russians totally flummoxed and in disarray - would make Baghdad Bob blush.
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Believe what you want - this is not a video game, nor is the Russian military anything like a western military. High losses of troops and equipment are expected and accepted. Training troops is low on the list, making money by the officers is job one- like buying cheap dog food instead of expensive human food to feed the troops.

From:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44511/ukrainians-citizens-are-taking-it-upon-themselves-to-capture-russian-military-vehicles

In the meantime, here’s a selection of those that have been identified so far:

#Ukraine: Apparently, one more abandoned Russian BTR-82A was stolen by Ukrainian civilians. pic.twitter.com/0FwIKJEFpI
— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) February 28, 2022

Ukrainian gypsies stole an armored personnel carrier from Russians
pic.twitter.com/5Oj4XuFEjb
— Mykhailo Golub (@golub) February 27, 2022

Unbelievable. Ukrainian civilians are taking the initiative to recover abandoned Russian military equipment. These two Russian 9K33 Osa SAM systems were recovered by a transport company for transport to a Ukrainian army base 🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/vTQgEHGPci
— Oryx (@oryxspioenkop) March 1, 2022

2 Ukrainian railroad workers have reportedly captured 1 Russian BTR near Sumy Tovarna station after having misadvised the soldiers asking for directions. pic.twitter.com/GEZT1EHgmQ
— MrRevinsky (@Kyruer) February 28, 2022

A Russian 9K35 Strela-10 (SA-13 Gopher) short-range surface-to-air missile system towed by a tractor:

About Ukrainian civilians. They may stole a tank. Do you see Z on it? That is mark of Russian troops. #RussiaGoHome pic.twitter.com/AKSV01XrCS
— Mariia Shuvalova (@mareverborum) February 27, 2022

Russian 9k33 OSA system captured by Ukrainian forces.
Location uknown. pic.twitter.com/FxuiuMSAj3
— MrRevinsky (@Kyruer) February 28, 2022

Regarding all those vehicles out of fuel pic.twitter.com/u4Mesx1FGH
— Woofers (@NotWoofers) February 28, 2022

Russian tank and 2S1 Gvozdika are stuck in the mud near Sumy City today. The crews abandoned the vehicles and fled. #UkraineUnderAttack #Ukraine #Russia #Putin #NATO #Kyiv #RussiaUkraineWar pic.twitter.com/hfq7KwiEWB
— Russia-Ukraine Latest News (@RussiaUkraineNs) February 27, 2022

Russia soldiers had left their vehicles and marching to the border.
Sumi district.
163/ pic.twitter.com/v34juzPqQD
— 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔇𝔢𝔞𝔡 𝔇𝔦𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔠𝔱 (@TheDeadDistrict) February 28, 2022

Bizarre — another bunch of armoured #Russia vehicles just left abandoned in #Ukraine. No sign of any fighting, troops just up & left. 🤷‍♂️pic.twitter.com/kU67m6hSPL
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) March 1, 2022

#Ukraine: A Russian T-72B obr. 1989 was abandoned with fuel and in fully working condition. The reason is unclear. pic.twitter.com/ZvpGbcproM
— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) February 28, 2022

A Russian 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled artillery piece collides with a tree.

Forgot the handbrake pic.twitter.com/LgciqTD8Dk
— C O U P S U R E (@COUPSURE) March 1, 2022

[redgolum]

That is a great point.

[Owen]

No, VHF is VHF and that will be what they always used. AM Broadcast Boston is about 1 MHz. VHF is 100+ MHz.

VHF will have a whip antenna a few feet long. AM broadcast are enormous towers for coverage and even then only get a few 10s of miles. It’s about wavelength, which is inversely calculated from frequency. Very short wavelengths will not do atmospheric bouncing. The longer wavelengths will.

You will not hear it outside line of sight. End of issue.
The story is bogus. And not the first such in this conflict.

[PIF]

Our radios covered the whole spectrum used by Russians at the time - ground, air, naval and space. Ours was from (R-390A) 500 KhZ to 32 MhZ, as it was 60 years ago. Other users covered even higher freqs.

We made our own antennas and wound our own coils. There was no Russian communications system we had not broken. Was all SAP CodeWord stuff.

So you seem to have little knowledge of what the military did or how it was done. Your use of ionosphere gives your low level radio knowledge away, civilian.

Story has every indication of being true or could be true.

[Svartalfiar]

Speaking as to purely technical realities, this isn’t 1965. Radio communications will be VHF or UHF. There is no ionosphere bounce. “Amateurs” with antennas will hear nothing beyond line-of-sight, and likely a much shorter distance than that.

US radios can transmit a couple miles, and up to 20-25mi with the power amp. I would guess Russians ones are similar, although maybe farther, as I believe they mostly use a lower freq range than we do (hard to definitively find on a quick search). If you don't have crypto, anyone with a tuner set to that frequency can hear you. A civilian sitting several stories up can likely hear almost everything for miles around with the right equipment. The Russians aren't 50+miles away, many of the units are in or just outside of these towns. And I highly doubt they have much security on their comms, it just doesn't seem too likely.