Posted on 03/23/2022 9:03:40 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
Javelins are designed to take out tanks. That doesn’t mean they aren’t being used against trucks, other mobile equipment and troop concentrations too.
I remember when France and UK attacked Libya back in 2011 and quickly ran out of bombs. They had to come begging to Uncle Sugar just to attack Libya. It would not surprise me if most of NATO still doesn’t have the ammo to fight an actual war.
NATO fails to grasp that actual war requires massive amounts of ordinance. A near peer like Russia has the ability to attack your manufacturing infrastructure, thus you need a large enough stockpile to fight for months, not days.
Is Argentina listening?
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The U.K probably doesn’t care about Ukraine and just sends some stuff to show Joe Biden.
Having shipped weapons, I can tell you it’s a long process. Companies insist on safety measures, things that go boom have to be handled by certain carriers and with various special processes. You can’t call UPS and just hand it over. The Germans, especially, lack the means of shipping weapons. Also, once they “arrive” you have to get them across a border where it’s likely going to get shot at. Just how and who is going to get the product from the border to wherever it’s going to be used? Another problem is everybody involved at every step of the way is a bureaucrat and nothing moves quickly in a bureaucracy. In order to move the product quickly, the military would have to be directly involved. Once a German truck (or any other transport type) with German soldiers go across the border Germany is at war with Russia. This is probably the holdup as the various governments have issued orders to not be THAT involved. So, you’ll find the product is stuck at various places for various problems and that could take months to sort out. To fix the problem would require a general officer to get actual troops involved, commandeer vehicles (a process in itself) and issue orders. He’d have to communicate directly with his counterpart in Ukraine. The people who ordered the transfer have zero idea of what’s involved logistically to make it happen and they obviously haven’t issued the right orders to the right people to MAKE it happen.
“Sending weapons to the Ukrainians to prolong the slaughter is immoral.”
By your logic we never should have supplied Britain during WWII. After all, in the latter part of 1940 and all of 1941 Britain was on its own, its back against the wall. It faced an existential threat. I guess it was immoral for the US to supply Britain, eh?
Well, my mother was English, and she went through that war and survived it, in large part because the US pulled out all stops to supply Britain. Had the US not done so there is a good chance I would never have been born. So, you can kiss my ass.
“There is the UK’s Wallace admitting that the Brirish arsenals are empty after sending all the ATGMs to Ukraine. Is Argentina listening?”
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I think the Argentines learned their lesson well several generations ago in their last Falkland wag-the-dog adventure.
What’s important is virtue signaling. Following through isn’t worth all the effort.
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How very true that is. The louder the virtue signaling the less likely they are to do anything.
Then why did we sign Assurance of Sovereignty for the Ukes in the Budapest Agreement?
“...3,615 anti-tank (NLAW) weapons...”
They must be really bad shots if they’re spending that many rockets on a lot fewer tanks and APCs. If they’d quit paying the punk crackhead Biden bribe money, they could afford to buy munitions and get them delivered in a timely manner.
Restraining orders carry a lot of weight.... eventually. Often enough times, it is after the woman has been murdered by her abuser. But I’m sure those people who make their living in the whole Restraining Order Process feel good about themselves.
Sending weapons to the Ukrainians to prolong the slaughter is immoral.
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I guess morality is the last of their concerns. If they read your post, they’ll laugh. You made a good point, but they’re not capable of understanding it.
It doesn’t take a genius to see something here doesn’t jive.
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Sure it does. This is not US and Western ‘kinder, gentler’ warfare; this is medieval kill them all warfare. The purpose of the Russian ground forces is to assesses the positions and strengths of the enemy, not to actually take ground. Heavy losses in equipment and troops are to be expected. That is why the Kremlin can say everything is going according to plan.
Once the enemy positions and civilian populations are located, it is the job of the Russian Artillery detachments and VKF to reduce those areas to well-bounced rubble so that remaining troops can just mob up. If necessary, artillery pieces can be brought into cities and the buildings blasted at point blank range for those reluctant troops and citizens not previously terrorized into leaving.
He’s not making any military calls for strategy or tactics. Lunch Bucket Joe just repeats what he’s told. He’s braindead.
Correct.
Weapons companies should be printing money rn.LMT is up huge ammounts since February.
Raytheon maker of Javalins sbould be up as well.
Weapons makers might just be in for a 5 year windfall on profuction at least after this. I say should, but I’m speculating.
Good post. Grain, steel and pipelines.
Resources are becoming increasingly critical in a growing world.
Controlling resources = power.
They must be really bad shots if they’re spending that many rockets on a lot fewer tanks and APCs
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A lot fewer? out of tens of thousands of vehicles? Last I looked, only a few thousand have been taken out by the UA. Often, it takes more than one hit to take out a armored vehicle. Thee are videos of T-70s taking 4-6 hits before being destroyed.
I think about 1 billion goes for military supplies to Ukraine. P> Here's a list of 800 million of it.
And you're probably right. These allocations probably haven't made it through our bureaucracy yet. So we are just like the French and the Germans.
It's all too little too late.
Where is why I've been saying all along, this is a war of Russia invading Ukraine with the Global State only going through the motions.
Pucker up sauerkraut.
homo-erotic Zalenski is almost as popular as Greta thunberg now.
Let them eat cake! was is Romney who said that?
Perhaps, but nobody is stopping Ukraine from surrendering. It's their call when to quit.
And besides, it will be a coons age before the Biden bureaucrats deliver those weapons.
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