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How Bill Clinton Sealed Ukraine’s Fate
Wall Street Journal - Opinion Page ^ | March 25, 2022 | George E. Bogden

Posted on 03/25/2022 1:33:33 PM PDT by Wuli

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To: AZJeep

Duck and cover!


21 posted on 03/25/2022 2:29:04 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Who is John Galt?
Lord, please save us from the crack-smoking retards who want to "make things better."

It's bad enough at the local level. It's monstrous at the national level. It's effin insanity when "geniuses" want to play Risk.

22 posted on 03/25/2022 2:35:25 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Wuli

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3783882/posts

Ukraine Gave More Money To Clinton Foundation That Any Nation On Earth

. . .Ukraine donated more money to the Clinton Foundation than any other county. The corrupt Saudi’s? Nope, Ukraine beat them by 3 million or so.

From Lifezette:

“Ukraine became a vast pool of U.S. taxpayer-funded ‘aid’ that poured into that long-corrupt nation and then saw piles of kickbacks returned to powerful and politically connected recipients,” according to a report in DC Clothesline.

“The far-Left media is still trying to ignore how many times Joe Biden grabbed some of that Ukraine stash for his family but chances are it wasn’t anywhere near what the Clintons did — and all with the blessing of President [Barack] Obama,” the same outlet also claims.

It then quotes from an earlier report in The Wall Street Journal from 2015 about funding: “Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine.

It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company. He served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.”

The outlet then went on to “connect the dots that bind Mr. Pinchuk and the Obama White House” by quoting from another piece, this one an opinion piece by Andrew McCarthy in Fox News from a little over a week ago: “It is in connection with Paul Manafort that we encounter some genuine collusion targeting the 2016 campaign: willful collaboration among foreign governments, the Obama administration, and the Clinton campaign.”

“Manafort had brought influential Democrats into his Ukrainian work, such as former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig and the consulting firm started by Obama and Clinton adviser John Podesta — a firm that is still run by Podesta’s brother.”

“Leshchenko just happens to be a vassal of Victor Pinchuk, a Ukrainian billionaire who just happens to give millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation. Wonder of wonders, Leshchenko took a public, strident anti-Trump position during the U.S. campaign — highly unusual for a foreign parliamentarian,” the McCarthy piece also said.

McCarthy’s piece then also added, “Which brings us back to Serhiy Leshchenko, Ukraine’s unabashed Clinton backer. And [what do you] know: Besides serving the government in Kiev and providing scintillating geopolitical analysis, Leshchenko had a side job: He was a source for … wait for it … Fusion GPS — the Clinton campaign-opposition arm, led by Glenn Simpson, which later dreamed up the Steele dossier.”. . .


23 posted on 03/25/2022 2:37:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Lord, please save us from the crack-smoking retards who want to "make things better."

It's bad enough at the local level. It's monstrous at the national level. It's effin insanity when "geniuses" want to play Risk.

Yeah, we apparently have a lot of "Top Men"lunatics here on FR who want to play nuclear roulette, because they know 100.0000% for sure/For Sure/FOR SURE! exactly what Putin will do, and everything that will happen, if Biden drags us into a war with Russia.

You wonder if it's drugs, 'covid brain', or just way too much time playing video games...

24 posted on 03/25/2022 2:50:03 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Who is John Galt?
I dunno, the older I get, the more I realize i have precious little in common with others. I've never felt I could make a decision for someone else, thatis better than the one they could make themselves.

Anyone who says "I can solve all your problems for you, make the world a more equitable and peaceful place," is a fucking monster.

25 posted on 03/25/2022 3:09:55 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I guess my approach has been to stick around, and point out that (no matter what the media & ‘experts’ say ;>) “the emperor has no clothes”...


26 posted on 03/25/2022 3:21:32 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Fedora
“Ukraine became a vast pool of U.S. taxpayer-funded ‘aid’ that poured into that long-corrupt nation and then saw piles of kickbacks returned to powerful and politically connected recipients,”

Having long been used to extensive corruption in the Soviet Union, I wonder what the Ukes thought when they were suddenly "free", and found the west was different, but just as corrupt. And the deals! "Wait, I give a few million to this person, and the USA will give me 10X that much back? Do you happen to be a Nigerian Prince?

Of course, the bribes are right out in the open now. Former German PM Gerhard Schröder gets a job as a Director of Gazprom and Chairman of Rosneft. A small contribution to the Clintons clears Russia to buy US company Uranium One. Sons of powerful US politicians get cushy no-show jobs for Uke petro companies. China hands out diamonds as bribes. Tip of the iceberg...

27 posted on 03/25/2022 3:42:50 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: Wuli

And on the other hand ....
I wonder if Bill Clinton had much to do with North Korea getting nukes.
Oh? What? They pledged to use the nuclear plant for peaceful purposes?
WHAT kind of idiot do you think I am? That just doesn’t even make sense. /I would be LMFAO .... except it isn’t really funny how N Korea got their weapons of mass destruction.


28 posted on 03/25/2022 4:45:50 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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“funny how N Korea got their weapons of mass destruction”

The U.S. thought Pakistan had signed a NNPT (Nuclesr non-proliferation treaty) as had India. But in spite of that agreement Pakistan secretly helped North Korea acquire nuclear arms knowledge and technology, with the acqueisence of China and in part with China as the go-between. It is also believed that Pakistan helped Sadam Hussein’s arms technologists acquire needed knowledge and technology for their WMD programs. The U.S. relationship with Pakistan has always been a very one sided relationship, where the U.S. thought its arms agreements were buying Pakistan away from China’s arms, while both Pakistan and China have just luaghed at that all along. Part of the U.S. impetus for that was India’s arms relationship with the Soviet Union. The U.S. has usually thought it was being a friend to Pakistan while Pakistan has never considered the U.S. a friend, just an arms supplier.


29 posted on 03/26/2022 9:41:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Fedora

So Ukkraine has its own load of corruption, but no degree more than Russia or maybe even less so. So the issue between the two is not corruption and neither is corruption what defines the disagreements with regard to Putin’s push against the sovereignty and independence of Ukraine. So the war did not arise because of nor was it a product of corruption. So the importance of it with respect to this war is????????


30 posted on 03/26/2022 9:55:33 AM PDT by Wuli
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“Apparently they didn’t want them much, as they essentially gave them away. They were never going to get a security guaranty.”

Not true, by their leaders own words - they thought the agreements meant more than they actually did.


31 posted on 03/26/2022 9:57:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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