Posted on 03/31/2022 8:10:51 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
“It has never been cleaned up, it has just been contained.”
This. Three Mile Island involved an extensive cleanup effort. It took nearly 14 years at a cost of $1 billion.
The Chernobyl accident, however, was much worse than the one at Three Mile Island.
TMI was a meltdown, not an explosion, and radioactive material was mostly confined within the containment building. Chernobyl had no containment building, so the explosion released huge amounts of radioactive material into the atmosphere.
The Chernobyl “cleanup” was mostly the installation of a concrete-and-steel sarcophagus to contain the radioactive ruins.
True but I don’t think the detection methods that were used here were that precise and were not in proximity to the facility to get that kind of data. I’m guessing that they detected a spike in overall radiation being emitted and got information from HUMINT, SIGINT, etc.
“Not if the Ukraine was making material to make nuclear weapons with.”
Could the Ukraine make a nuclear weapon from commercial U.S. reactor fuel? Not easily. It is enriched with uranium-235 but not nearly enough to make it weapons-grade. the Ukraine has cake in its country and could use it instead located at the Pridniprovskyi Chemical Plant in central Ukraine and is the most radioactive place in Europe.
It isn’t just that. Many seem to believe that radioactive matter has a short or limited shelf life and because the news media grew bored with talking about it, the problem was solved.
At the Chernobyl site there are an estimated 20,000 spent fuel rods from the 4 nuclear reactors that once operated at Chernobyl that are now stored in a cooling pool called Spent Nuclear Fuel Storage Facility 1. The rods remain radioactive even once they’re no longer usable as reactor fuel, and the water keeps their temperature down and provides some shielding against escaping radiation. But those pools rely on electric pumps to keep cool water circulating.
If those pumps shut down, which the Russian army apparently did, the water will boil away, leaving the spent fuel rods exposed and overheating to the point of melting. Radiation leaks will be the end result. Ukraine and Belarus would be at especially high risk in that scenario, but depending on the wind and on the amount of radiation released, radioactive material could reach Russia and parts of western Europe as alpha and beta residual. Both are extremely harmful and can cause sickness and death. Alpha particles are the most harmful internal hazard next to gamma rays that can immediately penetrate the body. Beta will cause internal burns.
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It is not a new kind of radiation it is just the Russians are too stupid to understand what they’re dealing with. Whatever. If the Russians want to kill their own soldiers by making them by making them occupy Chernobyl then so be it. It just means fewer invaders for the Ukrainians to have to kill.
Good points but you are not up to where this discussion is going read more posts. We are talking about storage now.
Good point.
I know that, but it still seems mad to me.
There are not enough Russians to play that game.
ya beat me to it
This is yet another prime example of communism—the total lack of compassion for its people. The rats in this country secretly pray that they will achieve such control.
“There are a few people who still live there and farm the land in safe zones.”
Yeh! Lol, but they all look in many ways like Marty Feldman!
Some of that material would make a very nasty dirty nuke bomb. If ya drop a big enough MOAB with a mushroom cloud and salt it with uranium rods, it would scare the shiite out of the Russians. A fake nuke, if you will. Of course, bluffing in the nuclear game is about as stupid as bluffing in open-hand liars’ dice.
I think it was more like storing it there. It would fit in nicely since the place is highly restricted, has radioactive material in it and largely inaccessible to Russian precision detection methods.
Don’t you know. Radiation is good for you. Just ask most of the people here. In another 100,000 years it will probably be safe to live there.
The ones with the blue flesh from foraging all the radiated roots and vegetation.
That is another really good point. Especially for terrorism. Thanks for putting that on the table.
Originally I was thinking they could run their whole nuke bomb program out of there. No one would think twice about a bunch of guys going back & forth in nuke bunny suits in Chernobyl.
When the Rukes first took over Chernobyl during this invasion, they claimed “highly active” material was found there.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4049162/posts
Based on what I recall from the US Navy radiation safety course that I took 40 years ago (I was a civilian), acute radiation syndrome is unlikely unless they were digging through the sarcophagus over the reactor.
They might well worry about developing cancer later in life - but that's not their biggest problem right now.
Thanks so much for this I will use this for my research. It is greatly appreciated. I think we are making several good points here. You must learn to think outside the box.
The Russians could be running a version of what we called the Alsos mission, which is that they suspect the Ukes of building nukes and they’re going to the likely spots where nukes woulda been built. Chernobyl is a very likely spot, and they probably just missed the Ukes evacuating from there.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4049162/posts
You're lying.
The IAEA stated that, based on the heat load of spent fuel in the ISF-1 storage pool, and the volume of cooling water it contained, there would be sufficient heat removal without electrical supply. It said that it saw no critical impact on safety as a result of the loss of power...
Not only are you lying, but your misinfo is two weeks out of date.
Later on 14 March Ukrenergo said that external power had been restored at 13.10 local time, and at 16.45 the plant was reconnected to Ukraine's electricity grid.
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