Posted on 05/07/2022 10:36:34 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
That a human is a person at all stages of life is the only logical and realistic position to take here.
Otherwise you are just making something up.
This is a position taken by religious and non-religious people alike because it is based on firm reality.
Trying to prevent inception is akin to trying to prevent life.
Thus - pre-emptive murder.
I know you like to think you’re self-righteous but these arguments aren’t old - it’s why contraception itself was banned in many societies.
Because it’s against God’s plan.
“It is not a choice between saving the mother and saving the baby, “
Do we save the baby or the mother, in some cases. Sometimes God gives us hard choices for reasons only God knows.
That is my only reason/exception for abortion.
Jesus told him over drinks.
Sorry but you are not making any sense.
I know you like to think you're self-righteous but these arguments aren't old
And still not making sense.
I never made those arguments. Those are your own delusions, not mine.
I made a simple statement of fact. That you are person from the moment of conception until your death. And it is the only logical position.
You want to bring other things into it and I am not certain why. Unless you want to argue that it is ok to kill people as long as they have not reached a certain arbitrary point that you have picked out of thin air.
If you want to argue that it is your privilege but then you are just saying that it is ok to kill people.
And if that is your position you should just say it and own it.
Don't try to hide. It just makes you look weak.
Please name three medical conditions which this would be true.
Sorry - you just don’t like it that your I’m following your arguments to their logical extreme.
Contraception is akin to preventing life.
Don’t hide behind “your not logical” when I’m using your rationale against you.
Think of what YOUR positions mean.
I support your right to your opinion, and always will. But I strongly agree that the last trimester should look to support the baby’s rights. Someone needs to be put as the guardian of that life since the mother abrogates the role.
Jack lives his entire life as the only resident of a tropical island and thus never becomes a parent.
Jill murders an innocent little baby.
What Jack did and what Jill did are in completely different categories.
What Jack did may well be regrettable.
What Jill did was murder.
Because you do not want to do so.
Contraception is akin to preventing life.
So is celibacy.
But it is not ending a life. Which is what you are pushing for.
You are not using my rational against me because you are not even addressing it.
You are not even off in left field, you are completely out of the ball park, taken the last train to Clarksville and chasing little bubbles calling them fairies.
You want to draw a line that you invented and say "it is ok to kill this innocent person but not that one". And when someone would ask you why you can not answer.
I Europe abortion s legal only in cases
1. when the woman’s life or health is endangered by the continuation of pregnancy.
2. when the pregnancy is a result of a criminal act
Unlike in other countries where abortion is banned, women in Poland are not subject to a penalty for illegal termination of pregnancy; the medical personnel ordering and carrying out the abortion are subject to criminal penalties including imprisonment. Consent of a physician is required for circumstance (1) above, while abortions in view of circumstance (2) above must be certified by a prosecutor. Parental consent is always required if the woman seeking abortion is a minor.
So essentially abortion is only in the case of danger to mother’s life or health or in the case of rape (and that too under specific circumstances and has to be approved by a court).
Perhaps the Democrats want to copy us?
Not a perfect system, but not a perfect world.
I doubt very much that Democrats would like that version.
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