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Putin's latest atrocity leaves at least 20 people including three children dead as Russian missiles hit office block in Ukrainian city
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news ^ | 14 July 2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 07/14/2022 5:34:06 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: marcusmaximus

Thank you. Have you noticed they actually attack the United States involvement in WW2?
I’ve had them say Russia and Germany should divide up Europe, like in ww2.
Maybe they are useful idiots but they sure hate America.


61 posted on 07/14/2022 6:23:43 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: marcusmaximus

MarcusMaxipad, I guess the Ukes shouldn’t have been poking the Russian bear code 8 years shelling The breakaway Ukrainian provinces.


62 posted on 07/14/2022 6:25:32 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal

It is not a civil war. Ukraine is an independent country. I have family and friends in the Donbas. I care about them. They want to defend their country from the 2014 invasion as well as the later one.

Why don’t you take your own advice. If it is not your circus, then stay off of Ukraine threads.


63 posted on 07/14/2022 6:25:53 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Once again, then get out and go to the utopia of Putin’s peaceful Russia.

You can spend your time there fantasizing about gay statues, US atrocities, and whatever else turns on America haters.


64 posted on 07/14/2022 6:26:04 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: marcusmaximus

American firebombing of Tokyo killed 130,000 civilians (more than one of our nukes). The two nukes we dropped killed The two bombings killed up to 226,000 people.


65 posted on 07/14/2022 6:27:07 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Robert DeLong

Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances 5 December 1994.

MEMORANDUM ON SECURITY ASSURANCES IN CONNECTION
WITH UKRAINE’S ACCESSION TO THE TREATY ON THE
NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS

Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America,

Welcoming the Accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-nuclear-weapon state,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to ELIMINATE ALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces,

CUNFIRM THE FOLOWING:

The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE FINAL ACT, to RESPECT the INDEPENDENCE AND SOVEREIGNTY and the EXISTING BORDERS of UKRAINE.
The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America REAFFIRM THEIR OBLIGATION to REFRAIN FROM THE THREAT or USE OF FORCE AGAINST THE TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OR POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE OF UKRAINE, and that NONE OF THEIR WEAPONS WILL EVER BE USED AGAINST UKRAINE except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS.
The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America REAFFIRM THEIR COMMITMENT to UKRAINE, in accordance with the Principles of the CSCE Final Act, to REFRAIN FROM ECONOMIC COERCION DESIGNED TO SUBORDINATE TO THEIR OWN INTEREST the exercise by UKRAINE of the RIGHTS INHERENT in its SOVEREIGNTY and thus to SECURE ADVANTAGES OF ANY KIND.

UKRAAINE HAD 3RD LARGEST NUCLEAR STOCKPILE & TURNED WEAPONS OVER FOR THESE ASSURANCES!!
Read more https://introvertum.com/budapest-memorandum-on-security-assurances-5-december-1994-full-text/


66 posted on 07/14/2022 6:28:26 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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Three missiles hit. Ukraine says they shot down 4 missiles.

-Zelensky called strike ‘terrorism’, saying there are no military targets in city which is 450 mm the miles from the front

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

The Ukrainian Air Force (Ukrainian: Повітряні Сили України, romanized: Povitryani Syly Ukrayiny) is the air force of Ukraine and one of the five branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.[5] Its headquarters are in the city of Vinnytsia. When the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, many aircraft were left in Ukrainian territory. Ever since, the Ukrainian Air Force has been downsizing and upgrading its forces. The main inventory of the air force still consists of Soviet-made aircraft. As of 2007, 36,300 personnel and 225 aircraft were in service in the Ukrainian Air Force and Air Defense forces.[6][7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQndQ3c_ZlM

“Officers’ club house (appears to be Air Force related) hit in Vinnytsia, Ukraine.”


67 posted on 07/14/2022 6:29:38 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Monterrosa-24

Because these people are immoral, and while they might be in their 40’s to 70’s their outbursts are as silly and insensitive as any loud arrogant and ignorant child.

The news story is about innocents blown up in an office building and they rush to justify it, tell you they don’t care, it’s just like what America does, etc.

IOW they are A holes.


68 posted on 07/14/2022 6:29:46 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
Once again, then get out and go to the utopia of Putin's peaceful Russia.

You again?
So when did you crawl out of your pro lockdown, pro “vaccine” dictatorship stink-hole?
Putin has his faults, but he is a far better human than the depraved, “shower with his own daughter” Dementia Joe will ever be.

69 posted on 07/14/2022 6:31:10 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Williams

Some of the Russian trolls are Russian. And even the ones who are not Russian spout the exact same phrases as Moscow’s pro-Putin talking heads.


70 posted on 07/14/2022 6:31:14 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
--- "THIS IS AN INVASION OF A SOVEREIGN NATION!"

It seems obvious that you are emotional over this, writing in capital letters. Some on this topic disagree with you, in one way or another.

But to be fair to opinions on this and other threads like it, once one establishes a rule or definition, one should abide by it. "Invasion of a sovereign nation...."

Burning US treasure and American lives for decades, our own government has invaded quite a number of other sovereign nations. To what ends? To what outcomes?

Those who say the Ukraine/Russia "special military operation" is unjustified might well recall our good old American "police actions" and "kinetic" responses and more. "Bombs away" has been American policy in invading sovereign nations aplenty.

How did our invasion of Afghanistan work out long term? How did NATO's bombing of Serbia work out long term? How did destroying Libya work out so far? So many "sovereign nation" nations to discuss, should you wish to do so. Or do rules and definitions change depending on some as yet unspecified rule of debate?

71 posted on 07/14/2022 6:31:24 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: BushCountry
Huh? We went out of our way to kill as many civilians as possible. Nuking and firebombing cities.

Early in WWII we didn’t. Then the Axis powers started moving factories and warehouses into residential areas. It took until 1944 for us to bomb civilians and even then there was a destroying military infrastructure element to it.

When the Japanese refused to surrender we thought we could “horrify” the citizens into pressuring the government for peace by firebombing Tokyo. Didn’t work. If you read the Japanese editorials and communications at that time, they were prepared to sacrifice their entire society.

72 posted on 07/14/2022 6:33:37 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Williams
The news story is about innocents blown up in an office building

Again, American firebombing of Tokyo killed 130,000 civilians (more than one of our nukes). The two nukes we dropped killed The two bombings killed up to 226,000 people.

73 posted on 07/14/2022 6:34:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dforest

CITE YOUR SOURCES
UKRAINE NOT HIDING WEAPONS IN CIVILIAN SCHOOLS, MALLS, CHURCHES OR APARTMENTS!

PUTIN DOES THE BIDDING OF THE WEF.
SEE PUTIN’S FULL SPEECH AT WEF WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION]:
https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/russian-president-putin-s-speech-at-the-world-economic-forum-complete-english-translation.html/


74 posted on 07/14/2022 6:35:38 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: Monterrosa-24
"Why don’t you take your own advice. If it is not your circus, then stay off of Ukraine threads."

Because Forever War fanatics like you will gladly spend all of America's blood and treasure overseas to fight this stupid war to make our leftist establishment rich. The Forever War and foreign "aid" are just blood fueled moneymaking schemes for the globalist left. That is why.

75 posted on 07/14/2022 6:36:13 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Crusher138
If you read the Japanese editorials and communications at that time, they were prepared to sacrifice their entire society.

The way they fought at Okinawa to the last man and sacrificed their civilians, pretty much told us how an invasion of Japan was going to go. The die was cast.

76 posted on 07/14/2022 6:37:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SmokingJoe

At least Japan started that one, big difference that I’d think would be obvious to the lowest IQ, but not to russian bots.


77 posted on 07/14/2022 6:39:17 AM PDT by Houserino
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To: BobL

“Putin is in Moscow right now?”

Don’t know! Putin may be hiding in his underground city bunker in Ural mountains or dacha in Sochi taking his baths in antler blood.


78 posted on 07/14/2022 6:40:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Good grief! I didn’t see the Jews in carpet bombing of Donetsk and Novaya Kahovka by Ukraine yesterday.
Are only Galican lives matter?


79 posted on 07/14/2022 6:41:32 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Crusher138

Poor string of excuses for American mass murders you have going on there.
Nobody has the right to drop nuclear weapons on innocent women, children and old folks in any city, just because its the easiest way to win a war.


80 posted on 07/14/2022 6:42:00 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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