Posted on 07/18/2022 2:37:48 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
So that must be why Ukraine invaded Russia, to win back Crimea... right... that makes sense... except, wait, no, who invaded whom?
My take-away: Outside of esoteric philosophical discussions, it is sufficient to speak of "(as far as we know) possibly dangerous nuclear-tipped Russian missiles."
In the real world, we ALWAYS know that there's a possibility that a device might fail - that a missile might not launch at all, or might blow up on in the silo during launch, or even that it might spontaneous explode, during peacetime, apart from any activation sequence being initiated. We might even infer that this is especially true of Russian missiles (because of their presumptive low quality).
So, as long as it can be taken as veridical that it is, indeed, a nuclear-tipped missile (and not a fake; or the product of our imagination; etc.), it must always be regarded as dangerous.
Of course, it might be useful to define various different incremental categories of "dangerous," so as to differentiate between the low-level, diffuse hazard posed by any atomic weapon, even when in storage (there might be a danger of leakage, for example - or of it being stolen by terrorists and damaged in the process, thus unintentionally releasing nuclides into the environment and offing a few terrorists and/or the clean-up crew), and the higher danger of it blowing up upon launch, etc.
(Of course, as an American, one might view the danger of a detonation at launch of a Russian missile as a negative risk.)
I would think, therefore, that for most purposes - incl. discussions here at Free Republic - your inclusion of the word "epistemic" and/or distinguishing between "ontologically / metaphysically" dangerous missiles on one hand and "epistemically" dangerous ones on the other serves no constructive purpose.
Regards,
Yes, we must all be very careful nowadays, mustn't we? Wouldn't want any Polonium-tipped umbrellas shoved into our sides, now, would we? Or is dioxin now the preferred poison?
Of course, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is in Sevastopol, but it was there before 2014 as well (under the terms of a long-term lease).
So you're admitting that there are legitimate military targets on the Crimea? So you're admitting that your blanket statement of "...The very concept of destroying such a beautiful piece of civilian infrastructure because..." was misleading?
Obviously, security has been beefed up due to overt Ukranian aggression [...]
"Security," you say!? Sounds like you're referring to road blocks, sand bags, and grumpy border guards!
Russia launched a full-scale invasion against Ukraine's southern flank from Crimea - armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery, infantry, the works...
Thanks for showing me who / what you really are!
Regards,
Often I appreciate people using vocabulary that is useful but which I am not yet familiar. I did not anticipate most Freepers being familiar with the term, but was in a sense promoting its use. The distinctions made by modal logic are to some extent understood intuitively by most people, but I think it often fascinating and fun to see things that we had an intuitive notion about clarified explicitly. To bring what was in the back of our mind into the front so we can see it more clearly. This is an experience I had while learning about modal logic, and I think it useful to try to subtly promote the subject by using its terms where they seem applicable.
Look how sloppy the Russian army turned out to be in Ukraine. With very poor tank and vehicle maintenance. Cheap Chinese tires on trucks going flat. Same thing with Russian nukes. The maintenance has been awful and many are nonfunctional. It is anyone’s guess which ones would work in a war.
Yes, for those who are unaware. Those nukes on Russian missiles have to be maintained, because the strong radiation within nuclear weapons degrades various parts and electronics. Other degrading factors too.
please cease spamming me.
When I mentioned civilian infrastructure, I was referring to the bridge. Your original comment mentioned Ukraine blowing up the bridge. This is what I referred to as disgusting.
With regard to "road blocks, sand bags, and grumpy border guards". None of these exist. There is zero border between Kranodar Krai and Kerch (on either side of the bridge). I'd imagine there is pretty good security on the border with the belligerent country to the north.
“Kranodar” should be “Krasnodar”.
“I’d rather not publically confirm or deny that I’ve been to Crimea recently.”
You just did.
Russian nuclear threats have become tiresome and tedious. If they really had the capacity to use nukes I doubt they’d be so cavalier with their threats.
So either they’re playing a bluff and their nuclear capacity is diminished from the 2017 Mayak disaster or else they’re idiots who are risking all out nuclear war over something that isn’t even theirs.
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DID YOU KNOW?
North America has belonged to Indians for centuries before the coming of white Europeans?
STILL waiting for you to give your Indian land back...
Tick Tock
What’s your point?
Which part? Be specific.
It seems the death of Putin has become a priority.
When Russia suffers another civil war and collapse like what happened in WWI, Ukraine will agree that Crimea is an independent country with a military alliance with Ukraine and NATO to keep the Russians out. That’s all of the face saving the Russia will be permitted.
What’s left of Russia’s Black Sea fleet will relocate to Novorossiysk, if it can be raised from the sea floor.
Generally, (at least, before the special operation), the main takeaways any sound-thinking person would get from visiting Crimea are 1) the US State Department is full of crap (the travel warning makes it sound like you will be arrested and beaten for fun...in reality, no one gives a crap, even if you are American), and 2) it is a certainty that the referendum was legitimate and accurate (support for Russia is virtually universal).
I really don’t get you. I try to be nice and polite, but your level of belligerence combined with ignorance is astounding.
1. Who the hell are you responding to? My post was not addressed to you so if you don’t like it then move along.
2. You are not being ‘nice and polite’ when you call me ignorant while I said nothing to you.
3. Feel free to die angry.
Generally, (at least, before the special operation), the main takeaways any sound-thinking person would get from visiting Crimea are 1) the US State Department is full of crap (the travel warning makes it sound like you will be arrested and beaten for fun...in reality, no one gives a crap, even if you are American), and 2) it is a certainty that the referendum was legitimate and accurate (support for Russia is virtually universal).
The Crimean parliament was stolen at gunpoint by Russians from Moscow in 2014. Putin later gave them medals for the op.
No amount of Stalinist airbrushing of history will undue Crimea’s brutal history of deportation and genocide under Russian occupation. They don’t call Russia the prison of nations for nothing.
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