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The Vineyard of the Saker ^ | Aug. 27, 2022 | Pepe Escobar,

Posted on 08/27/2022 4:29:38 PM PDT by Vlad0

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To: yuleeyahoo

“They started hating Russia in 2014 when they were not allowed topple Assad in Syria or conquer all of Ukraine.”

Also in 2014, Russia outlawed Grooming of little children, so that, no doubt, angered a bunch of people here.


21 posted on 08/27/2022 5:31:07 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: Vlad0; kosciusko51; Travis McGee; BobL
That’s as stark as it gets: the leadership in Moscow is making it very clear, to internal and international audiences, the new deal consists in slow cooking the Kiev racket inside a massive cauldron while polishing its status of financial black hole for the collective West. Until we reach boiling point – which will be a revolution or a putsch.

LOLOL!

"We are the ones we've been waiting for."

And they thought they were gonna get regime change in Russia, and a demilitarized Russia.

Whole lotta regime change and demilitarization going on, all right - only it's Europe that's getting the Gaddafi bayonet that was meant for Russia and Putin...

22 posted on 08/27/2022 5:37:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Travis McGee

RuZZia legalized gay sex in 1993.

Nearly 30 years now.


23 posted on 08/27/2022 5:39:32 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: BobL
Also in 2014, Russia outlawed Grooming of little children, so that, no doubt, angered a bunch of people here.

OK, that indeed explains the incandescent neocon anger.

I caught a little bit of that last night - even though it was a puny helping of rage.

24 posted on 08/27/2022 5:40:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: yuleeyahoo

It was slightly before that.

Russia and China abstained from the Libya “protect civilians” UN vote. Either could have prevented military action there, but the wording of the resolution did not authorize an attack on Ghadaffi or extensive bombing. So they abstained.

The resolution carried. As soon as the sortie total started to accumulate, paying big money for fuel with Libya offline, they translated that resolution into assassinating Ghadaffi and massive bombing everywhere.

Russia and China both told the US there would never again be any resolution in the UN authorizing any collective military action that they would allow to proceed.

That’s why Assad is still in Syria. Russia said no and sent its own forces there.


25 posted on 08/27/2022 5:42:48 PM PDT by Owen
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To: SpeedyInTexas; Travis McGee; Vlad0; BobL
RuZZia legalized gay sex in 1993.

Weird how no one else on this thread [and probably most of Free Republic] knew that.

Probably common knowledge in The Smoky YMCA Backdoor Room area, though...

26 posted on 08/27/2022 5:43:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Vlad0

Ukraine has been a key component in their plans, it’s a huge money laundering operation - which is why the Pelosi’s, Biden and John Kerry family all had their snouts in the slop, and why the State Department, especially the Neocon cohort, organized the coup d’etat in 2014 that started the whole thing. Ukraine was to be their playground.


Yet the Soros EU has sent 86 billion euros to Russia’s war economy since Feb. 25th. Russia is bankrupt and unable to project war without that cash. Then you have Biden partnering with Putin on a new Trump policy busting Iran deal. Putin’s Russian negotiator crowed on camera “We got everything we wanted.” You want more? There’s lots.

Provably, Ukraine is not a “key compontent.” In fact Democrats couldn’t care less about it. Obama sent blankets and deferred to Merkel in 2014. In 2021 Biden’s handlers denied Ukrainian military aid requests while partnering with Putin on Iran.


27 posted on 08/27/2022 5:46:50 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Vlad0; Travis McGee; kosciusko51; BobL
Apparently, Pepe Escobar's main point is that Russia has abandoned any realistic expectations of settlement with Western Europe and the US, and has shifted to a strategy of 'Win The War Using The Incredible US Mistake Of Weaponizing The Uni Polar Monetary System and Commodities Market.

Just let the Westerners cook in their own stew until their economies, currencies and banking sink into a cesspool somewhere below Hell's septic tank, while the rest of the world creates a Multi Polar System leaving the West out.

That American Liberal Socialist Communists loved them Communist Russians until the Russians rejected Communism (and most everything else Liberal Socialist), and amazingly kicked the habit in a mere 25 years, is a fun fact similar to icing on a birthday cake from a Christian Bakery.

28 posted on 08/27/2022 5:54:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: lodi90
Russia is bankrupt and unable to project war without that cash.

This is a keeper.

29 posted on 08/27/2022 6:03:04 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yep. I had heard that when Blinken (I think) went to Dubai to try to get them to produce more energy, when meeting him, he did a fist-bump with the Emir. The other hand of the Emir was on a cell phone the whole time.

The Third World now bows to Putin, and to a letter extent, She, but not the United States, at least with the bunch we have in power and maybe never again - we had our chance, but our home-grown America-haters destroyed it all.


30 posted on 08/27/2022 6:03:55 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: Travis McGee

Escobar provides a pretty clear roadmap on how this conflict is going to end.

⚡️BREAKING NEWS⚡️

“Russia READY to discuss possibility of NEGOTIATIONS with Ukraine ONLY in event of Kiev’s SURRENDER, reduction in size of Ukrainian military, and country’s DENAZIFICATION - Russian Parliament International Affairs Committee Chairman Leonid Slutsky.”

I don’t find it surprising that most Americans are in an angry state of denial. This is unchartered territory for us. We make the diktats, we give the orders, we have worldwide hegemony and we will punish non-compliance as we have for decades.

For 30 years we have ruled and we are now being knocked off the throne. Americans with limited IQs (U.S. average now down to 98) don’t care whether Russia is the more moral adherent and the U.S. is now utterly depraved.

They will verbally fight to the end with lies, distortions, slander, demonization, vilification in their pathetic, in vain attempt to maintain our hegemony.

They will fail.


31 posted on 08/27/2022 6:06:06 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: kiryandil

It’s a fact. The Soros EU has allowed Russia to manage the sanctions. Sent back Siemens equipment, etc. Brandon’s handlers are AWOL, too.

President Trump will certainly smash the Russian Potemkin economy into little pieces once he gets back into the White House and reasserts America First. No worries there.


32 posted on 08/27/2022 6:10:21 PM PDT by lodi90
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It’s a fact.

This is a keeper, too.

see Cathi's post #31 about American IQs for reference.

33 posted on 08/27/2022 6:16:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

See my post about Poland buying 1000 MBT. The fruits and nuts of the political fringes do make a world turn. Sorry.


34 posted on 08/27/2022 6:23:03 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: kiryandil

A little reminder for those who think Trump has any intention of going to war with Russia. Yes, America First and as he has also said, he expects other countries to put their countries first, too.

He thinks NATO should have been eliminated back when the Warsaw Pact was. That doesn’t sound like he welcomes NATO expansion, does it?

He does not engage in wars. He negotiates deals and he has repeatedly said how much he likes Putin and how he thinks we can work with him.

If Trump had been president this “special military operation” would not have ever happened because once Putin made it clear that it would happen unless the West met Russia’s legitimate demands about the Donbass and a new “security agreement” Trump would have negotiated a deal with him like he did with everyone else.


35 posted on 08/27/2022 6:28:00 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Travis McGee

Amen!


36 posted on 08/27/2022 7:01:12 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Timber Rattler

Probably not.


37 posted on 08/27/2022 7:24:32 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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To: lodi90
I ordered 2000 tanks.

I'll get mine before Poland gets theirs.     

38 posted on 08/27/2022 7:37:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Travis McGee

I think you are right on target!


39 posted on 08/27/2022 8:01:14 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: Travis McGee

I think you are right on target!


40 posted on 08/27/2022 8:07:50 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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