Posted on 08/30/2022 3:45:27 PM PDT by aimhigh
That website uses a bad font called ‘Bitter’ and then makes the text a light grey. It is like they want people to quickly leave the website.
Nobody is saying these galaxies are trillion of light years away. The claim is that they are at high redshifts like 14-17 which puts them roughly 250 million years after the Big Bang. It should be kept in mind the redshifts claimed are from ascertaining the overall color of the galaxies and not from spectroscopic redshifts. When we have those it can be established if these galaxies are really at those high redshifts.
Yes, but too much knowledge that changes everything too fast is very hard to absorb, which is why Hubble has been compared to the invention of the microscope.
It reminds me of the song by “Weird Al” Yankovic, “Everything You Know Is Wrong”.
This most recent discovery hits at one of the founding pillars of understanding about the universe. That is, vast amounts of mathematics and theory based on the Big Bang, which are now called into question, needing major revision at best.
It was originally said that it would take “hundreds” of years to digest what Hubble discovered. With Webb, who knows?
I noted before on another Web thread that Dave was wrong.
It’s full of GALAXIES!
They estimate the observable universe is 94 billion light years across but we can only visibly observe about 13.4 billion light years.
By my estimation the Universe is 13 trillion light years wide. We of course can't see that far but take my word for it, it is.
What they mean by those different numbers is that while the light left 13.4 billion years ago, in the meantime, the universe continued to expand, so that it is 94 billion light years today.
Those were not my words, just more nonsense that showed up in a google search.
I have lost a lot of respect for the scientific community because of the way the medical profession bought into this Covid nonsense, all while most all of scientists avoided the issue all together while we destroyed the world economy.
It’s true that science has become politicized, especially certain fields. It saddens me and alarms me greatly. Everything, it seems, has become politicized.
My Dad was a Real Scientist (chemistry and physics). He and his fellow Real Scientists were some of the least arrogant men you’ll ever meet. No one could have ever called my Dad smug. Real Scientists know they don’t have all the answers and say so. They have true humility, like my Dad and his friends.
Well, that generation is fast passing away. But it does not mean every scientist is now untrustworthy. The way I see it, being anti-science (as opposed to working for a restoration of proper science, Real Science), is falling into a trap, cutting off our noses to spite our faces. We have to do due diligence and examine scientists’ claims as best we can. This is bothersome and time consuming, but here we are.
I can sense the sadness for the current state of affairs in the scientific community. I feel it also. Personally, I don’t have a lot of time for emotional issues and have felt more at home dealing with the cold hard facts, as usually exhibited by the scientific community. But starting about 20-30 years ago it really started to change, most notably was in the scientific publications.
Very sad.
My Dad’s field (nuclear physics/chemical engineering) was less affected, I think. He was dismayed at what he saw happening in other fields, as was I. He retired in the mid-90s but continued doing consulting and writing papers. So maybe it has gone downhill in his field, too, since then.
Back in the mid-80s, I ran into a top NASA scientist, very nice Christian man, who was grateful to me for helping his son when he was injured in an accident not involving me (fell out of a tree). The Global Warming nonsense was just starting up. I was already skeptical then, and so was my Dad, so I asked his opinion about it as it was a thing at NASA at the time. He asked me not to tell anyone, but ... well you can guess what he said. So it was already political even then.
Some of the whacky stuff trying to pass itself off as “science” that gets posted on FR lately and eagerly swallowed whole leaves me shaking my head, I must say. Can’t anybody even do math anymore? I get distrusting the scientific establishment, but that does not mean every crackpot claim based on dodgy “science” and basic math errors is automatically right, either.
I live in a world where I am being called a fascist, the President has gone psycho, elections are rigged and the FBI is acting like the Gestapo and I am somehow supposed to be interested in this “revelation”? This is a diversion a shiny object to keep our attention.
“...those galaxies to be shockingly massive, not to mention balanced and well-formed...”
I’ve had in the back of my mind that a smaller universe with as much matter as we have today would be pretty crowded and chaotic. I guess it’s crowded but that crowding forces it to be organized.
BOOKMARK.
My pastor talked about this last week.
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