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Separatists in Ukraine’s Kherson region to hold vote on joining Russia
Arutz Sheva ^ | 20/9/22

Posted on 09/20/2022 7:58:07 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: cranked

⚡️BREAKING NEWS⚡️

French President Macron says he expects to talk with Putin in coming days.

Earlier, Macron had URGENTLY requested (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/5182) a telephone conversation with Russian President but he was reportedly DENIED the chance to speak with Putin. :-)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qskLuWb0GEM

The Duran discussing this new development. Interestingly they suggest the meeting at Samarkand played a role in the timing. Putin overcame India and China’s concerns about session. They are also focusing on how much this new situation is going to change everything.

Also interesting is that Erdogan just gave an interview and said that Putin wants this war finished.


41 posted on 09/20/2022 10:02:00 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

“Putin wants this war finished.

Foolish talk. All Putin has to do is stop his ‘special military operation’ invasion of Ukraine!

Putin has no troops that want to fight. So, he just wants to threaten to obtain a political win!


42 posted on 09/20/2022 11:13:49 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: cranked

He did the same in Crimea and bragged about it after it was done. He did the same in Georgia, which is now no longer independant. As for what he did in Chechnya, visit Grozny on your next vacation. Bring a camera.

Nothing to back it up? How about his own words.

Here’s some reading for you.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181


43 posted on 09/20/2022 11:41:09 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Don’t need no ‘reading’.
Crimea is mostly made up of ethnic Russians.
They happy as hell.


44 posted on 09/20/2022 11:42:27 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Don’t have the attention span?

Crimea is the stronghold of the Tartars, those that Stalin didn’t forcibly relocate, and the “ethnic Russians” are mostly vacationers.

BTW, Zelensky’s first language was Russian, and his grandfather was a Colonel in the Red Army during WW II. But he is Jewish, not “ethnic Russian”. And he’s President of Ukraine by popular vote, because the Ukrainians rejected the incumbent ethnic Ukrainian Poroshenko (sir-names will tell you the ethnicities, but BFD), because he was a lousy crook and was adding fuel to the fire of the civil war in Donetsk. He might arguably have been a “Banderite,” but mostly he was a crook just like Yanukovich before him. Zelensky’s campaign promised to work towards peace. But he had to negotiate with Putin to get that done, and Putin eats Jewish comedians with no political experience for breakfast.

After he used the old “separatist” grift to grab hold of Crimea, Putin openly bragged about how he had invented the entire separatist movement, calling his operatives “the little green men.”

Your first language was English, I presume. Does that make you an Englishman? You understand neither Ukraine nor Russia, both of which are a hodgepodge of ethnicities, the very least factor of which is their respective languages, which are not all that different, and not universally spoken within their territories. They have in each of their borders the aforementioned Tartars, Hungarians, Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Armenians, Georgians, Croats and Serbs, as well as Chechens and a plethora of nomadic tribes that neither of us have ever heard of. Ethnic shmethnic. Languages shmanguages.

Read Putin’s own words. I provided the link.


45 posted on 09/20/2022 2:01:11 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: cranked

No one can or will explain why ‘winners’ need to attack with all their forces and foreign weapons to prevent a referendum.

Turns out, as you say, that they have been attacking for 8 years and have never stopped.

I saw Putin’s speech and press conference. He did not mention *tactical nuclear weapons*. That was slipped into the story by the Atlanticist press.


46 posted on 09/20/2022 6:33:26 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Antioch; Cathi

Article 280.1 (on public calls to action for the violation of the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation).

Russia makes it illegal to even TALK about seceding from the Russian federation

it stands to briefly recall the Russian Constitution, which guarantees the right to peoples’ self-determination (Article 5). The Constitution also includes an entire chapter on Federation (chapter 3). But there is one small detail: the Constitution only addresses the question of being admitting to the Russian Federation. There is not a single line about the possibility, or even the right, to secede from it.

Russian lawmakers introduced a new article into the Criminal Code prohibiting calls for the violation of territorial integrity in 2014

Vladimir Zavarkin suggested in an emotional speech that a referendum be held on Karelia’s secession from Russia.

The basis for his sentence was the fact that “statements of a motivational character calling for the secession of the Republic of Karelia from the Russian Federation couched in ambiguous set of proposals” were identified in his speech.


47 posted on 09/26/2022 5:43:01 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Antioch
why would Kiev even have an opinion on the Kherson referendum?

For the same reason that Russia jailed Vladimir in 2015 for even talking about a referendum on the independence of Karelia

48 posted on 09/26/2022 5:44:18 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Eleutheria5

There was a video saying the voters just didn’t turn out

So, it may be a real fiasco


49 posted on 09/26/2022 5:47:25 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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