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NYU students wonder why they didn't get an A for effort in organic chemistry class: Professor Fired Because Students Complained His Class Was "Too Hard"
Hotair ^ | 10/03/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 10/03/2022 9:25:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/03/2022 9:25:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The students are semi-literate.


2 posted on 10/03/2022 9:28:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

I find myself at a loss for the generations following me...

So entitled. So all-knowing. So amazingly inexperienced in, well, everything.


3 posted on 10/03/2022 9:34:00 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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So eager to become a well-paid physician and operate on you with knowing, well - anything.


4 posted on 10/03/2022 9:39:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Organic chemistry was the great winnower of premeds. The material is very complex on many fronts. It was supposed to be hard, and it was supposed to weed out those that couldn’t grasp the concepts.


5 posted on 10/03/2022 9:42:01 PM PDT by RedElement
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To: SeekAndFind
This story is horrible. Clearly the course is passable. Some students passed with good grades.

Caving to the lazy layabouts is a no-win situation. Somewhere down the line someone is going to pay: when the patient dies, when the bridge falls down.

6 posted on 10/03/2022 9:45:24 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a pathetic state we are in. It won’t be long before doctors routinely kill patients, bridges collapse, planes fall from the sky, power plants explode, and trains run off the rails.

Clearly the only answer to this is MORE wokeism. Intersectional Studies should fix it all up.


7 posted on 10/03/2022 9:46:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: kiryandil

Besides the factors above about lack of work and inability to study as well as semi-illiteracy, I found that some students were just too damn stupid to grasp the material. I taught one fellow who was very eager to learn and pass the course (foreign language), but he started failing early in the course. I tutored him twice a week during office hours and found he was unable to understand the most simple concepts no matter how many ways I explained them.

I later taught in a college in which I was provided the IQs of all the students. Not surprisingly their grades tracked fairly close to their IQ scores.


8 posted on 10/03/2022 9:48:05 PM PDT by DeFault User
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In the school district near where I live, standardized testing shows less than 40% of students are at or above grade level for Math and Reading skills. This used to be the one of the highest achieving and more affluent districts in the state.
9 posted on 10/03/2022 9:51:49 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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Yes, organic in high school and college when I was there was the Great Winnower.

It seemed to me to be more favorable to the memorizers during that time frame.

Interesting that this particular professor went for a problem-solving approach, breaking away from the rote study that I remember.

I never took organic - but all my friends did. I wouldn't have had a hard time in it, but I steered towards the math and engineering type sciences, instead.

10 posted on 10/03/2022 9:53:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Declining literacy and numeracy are widespread. I taught high school science for 7 years before retiring. I was appalled at the amount of cheating, poor basic skills and lack of knowledge of most of the youngsters. They were in a suburban parochial school. The long-time teachers there told me that they saw a huge drop-off in student learning when mobile phones became prevalent among youngsters. Most of them lost focus and discipline around that time. They also read very few books, which require more sustained concentration. Technology has its advantages, but it is also harmful to young people in many ways.


11 posted on 10/03/2022 9:56:07 PM PDT by Think free or die
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LOL! That was interesting.

Chrome offered to translate your FR home page.

Pascal - two thumbs up!

12 posted on 10/03/2022 9:58:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

Merit being punished-—AGAIN...

Glad I don’t have to hire a single one of these whiners.


13 posted on 10/03/2022 10:03:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

“A for effort”....

Kind of says it all right there.


14 posted on 10/03/2022 10:04:21 PM PDT by cranked
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To: SeekAndFind

And this is at NYU, home to the Courant Inst of Mathematical Sciences.


15 posted on 10/03/2022 10:05:05 PM PDT by libh8er
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SO steeped in PARTICIPATION TROPHIES-—

NO EFFORT—

NO SWEAT EQUITY-—

NO UNDERSTANDING OF BASICS-—

JUST SHOW UP-—————

We are now reaping the reward of such trophies.


16 posted on 10/03/2022 10:05:12 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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17 posted on 10/03/2022 10:05:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

my college roommate was “pre-med” because of his parents - he didn’t make it through organic chemistry.

He became more focused, partied less, and took it the next year - and passed.


18 posted on 10/03/2022 10:09:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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Just what you want in a doctor. A whinny little snowflake that can’t pass organic chemistry.


19 posted on 10/03/2022 10:10:01 PM PDT by Dave911
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Students too lazy.


20 posted on 10/03/2022 10:18:19 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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