Posted on 10/05/2022 1:59:24 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Hey I’ve got an idea on how to fight the propaganda campaign, let’s attack the messenger.
1) Don’t accept information from any media source. Since most of them are liberal we can just say they are all always unreliable.
2) Attack the personality and motivations of the posters. Any claim, however wild, will be almost impossible to disprove. Any attempt by the poster to deny the claim will look defensive and will sidetrack the original point of the post.
Weren’t you the big vaccine guy? They must have given you another assigned topic.
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I’m seeing a high correlation between those all in on the vaxx and those all in on Ukraine.
My immediate question was, “Then why the @#$% aren’t you in uniform ‘fighting for the Motherland,’ instead of weeping like a baby on some social media broadcast?
The Russian people are not invested in this fight, because they rightly see there is no threat to Russia from Ukraine; more so since Ukraine seems to be taking its proverbial pound of flesh off the invaders. And the Ukrainians ARE invested in this fight; they are fighting for THEIR homes and THEIR families and THEIR loved ones.
Russia is losing this war.
I thought this was the Bee.
Aren’t they supposed to do a TikTok surrender video?
How much does it pay? US dollars I assume.
“Hey I’ve got an idea on how to fight the propaganda campaign, let’s attack the messenger.”
Well stated. Thank you
Video of Russian IFV surrendering to Ukrainian forces....no English but the video says it all.
YO: cranked!!!
Pls, post your name at the beginning of your posts like a trademark.
So everyone can skip over your inane comments.
Saving everyone’s time.
Prigozhin‘s coup begins…
These ideas strike me as genetic, red herring, and/or ad hominem fallacies.
—”...let’s attack the messenger.”
Without that approach, many of the vatnicks and their fellow travelers would have nothing to post.
Other then the obvious mistakes that Putin has made, his biggist and most costly was the Arrest Warrant he put out on George Soros and then didn’t follow through with it. The NWO ruling elite cannot have a leader of any country coming after one of thiner own.
Funny cartoon on the same page.
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1577727067285852172?s=20&t=8um7Cxq7tMJSoQRUyrULgQ
Putin and those around him conceived of the Russo-Ukrainian War in existential terms from the very beginning. It is unlikely, however, that most Russians understood this. Instead, they likely viewed the war the same way Americans viewed the war in Iraq and Ukraine - as a justified military enterprise that was nevertheless merely a technocratic task for the professional military; hardly a matter of life and death for the nation. I highly doubt that any American ever believed that the fate of the nation hinged on the war in Afghanistan (Americans have not fought an existential war since 1865), and judging by the recruitment crisis plaguing the American military, it does not seem like anyone perceives a genuine foreign existential threat.
What has happened in the months since February 24 is rather remarkable. The existential war for the Russian nation has been incarnated and made real for Russian citizens. Sanctions and anti-Russian propaganda - demonizing the entire nation as “orcs” - has rallied even initially skeptical Russians behind the war, and Putin’s approval rating has soared. A core western assumption, that Russians would turn on the government, has reversed. Videos showing the torture of Russian POWs by frothing Ukrainians, of Ukrainian soldiers calling Russian mothers to mockingly tell them their sons are dead, of Russian children killed by shelling in Donetsk, have served to validate Putin’s implicit claim that Ukraine is a demon possessed state that must be exorcised with high explosives. Amidst all of this - helpfully, from the perspective of Alexander Dugin and his neophytes - American pseudo-intellectual “Blue Checks” have publicly drooled over the prospect of “decolonizing and demilitarizing” Russia, which plainly entails the dismemberment of the Russian state and the partitioning of its territory. The government of Ukraine (in now deleted tweets) publicly claimed that Russians are prone to barbarism because they are a mongrel race with Asiatic blood mixing.
Simultaneously, Putin has moved towards - and ultimately achieved - his project of formal annexation of Ukraine’s old eastern rim. This has also legally transformed the war into an existential struggle. Further Ukrainian advances in the east are now, in the eyes of the Russian state, an assault on sovereign Russian territory and an attempt to destroy the integrity of the Russian state. Recent polling shows that a supermajority of Russians support defending these new territories at any cost.
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A political consensus for higher mobilization and greater intensity has been achieved. Now all that remains is the implementation of this consensus in the material world of fist and boot, bullet and shell, blood and iron.
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Putin, very simply, could not have conducted a large scale mobilization at the onset of the war. He possessed neither a coercive mechanism nor the manifest threat to generate mass political support. Few Russians would have believed that there was some existential threat lurking in the shadow - they needed to be shown, and the west has not disappointed. Likewise, few Russians would likely have supported the obliteration of Ukrainian infrastructure and urban utilities in the opening days of the war. But now, the only vocal criticism of Putin within Russia is on the side of further escalation. The problem with Putin, from the Russian perspective, is that he has not gone far enough. In other words - mass politics have already moved ahead of the government, making mobilization and escalation politically trivial. Above all, we must remember that Clausewitz’s maxim remains true. The military situation is merely a subset of the political situation, and military mobilization is also political mobilization - a manifestation of society’s political participation in the state.
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The other is the interpretation that I have advocated, that Russia is massing for a winter escalation and offensive, and is currently engaged in a calculated trade wherein they give up space in exchange for time and Ukrainian casualties. Russia continues to retreat where positions are either operationally compromised or faced with overwhelming Ukrainian numbers, but they are very careful to extract forces out of operational danger. In Lyman, where Ukraine threatened to encircle the garrison, Russia committed mobile reserves to unblock the village and secure the withdrawal of the garrison. Ukraine’s “encirclement” evaporated, and the Ukrainian interior ministry was bizarrely compelled to tweet (and then delete) video of destroyed civilian vehicles as “proof” that the Russian forces had been annihilated.
Russia will likely continue to pull back over the coming weeks, withdrawing units intact under their artillery and air umbrella, grinding down Ukrainian heavy equipment stocks and wearing away their manpower. Meanwhile, new equipment continues to congregate in Belgorod, Zaporizhia, and Crimea. My expectation remains the same: episodic Russian withdrawal until the front stabilizes roughly at the end of October, followed by an operational pause until the ground freezes, followed by escalation and a winter offensive by Russia once they have finished amassing sufficient units.
“Putin has moved towards - and ultimately achieved - his project of formal annexation of Ukraine’s old eastern rim. This has also legally transformed the war into an existential struggle.”
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1129047
If Sorostan says it, it must be true. Joe Biden thanks you for your support of Ukraine.
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