Posted on 10/27/2022 2:15:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
you can yell it freely...but it doesn’t give you immunity to any consequences.
Try yelling “GUN!” at a Democrat rally.
Or "God".
You can yell it if there is a fire; if there isn’t likelihood of causing a stampede; if you on stage and it is part of the show and others I can’t think of at the moment.
As you said, it is legal to yell fire but there are potential consequences if you do depending on the circumstance and outcome.
read the whole thing...the myth reference is a myth...
“it’s perfectly legal to yell “fire” in a crowded theatre...”
Legal, yes. But if there is not a fire, and people are harmed as a result of what you yelled, then you are liable and probably will lose a lot of money when those lawsuits hit. And you won’t be able to claim any 1st amendment protections in those lawsuits either. So by that measure it is indeed “unprotected speech”.
It happened. And it caused the deaths of a good many people.
Calumet Michigan. Dec 24th, 1913.
That building was torn down years ago.
Or any presidential speech/rally....
In civil court only?
What kind of [jerk] would do that?
Bingo
ready..... aim.....FIRE
Post number 9
The man who taught me a good many things about grading and scaling logs was there.
In 1973 he was 76 years old.
He made it out with his mother...somehow.
To this day, you DO NOT, go to the Copper Country and say you are proud to have support for C&H mining co.
I know that town very well.
I prefer you have a right to swing your fist up to where my nose begins. And yes, shouting fire in a crowded theatre, that creates an imminent physical threat is where my nose begins.
Alito is either very stupid or is knowingly splitting hairs as he believes only in protected speech, which makes him a free speech denier. He is talking about things that involve speech. Sort of like saying that if you hired a contract killer, the crime you committed was a violation by free speech - after all you had to speak to someone to arrange the assassination.
You notice the people that bring up the fire analogy are free speech deniers. They are splitting hairs to try to argue for controlled speech. It would have been better if the founders had replaced “speech” with “opinion”. Then there is no wiggle room. After all how can we violate a persons’ rights to have an opinion?
Well, you could easily be charged with reckless endangerment or the equivalent in criminal court as well.
Yeah, thanks Emma. I am certain he does indeed know about that case and is an expert on it. He is saying speech that creates a clear and present immediate danger is not protected.
And he was illustrating that point.
But nice childish strawman to pretend he meant it literally. Alito is smarter than you Emma, much smarter. This is true even though you are a senior in college, or may have possibly graduated in May.
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