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Trump blasts Maricopa County after Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly defeats Blake Masters: 'Do Election over again!'
Fox News ^ | November 12, 2022 | Lawrence Richard

Posted on 11/12/2022 2:50:04 AM PST by McGruff

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To: McGruff

Isn’t Maricopa County the place where the cameras went black for 8 hours due to a umm electrical issue?.

Yet all the cameras outside the building worked

Fox News yesterday


101 posted on 11/12/2022 8:04:44 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: McGruff

What are Arizonans gonna do if and when Hobbs is declared the winner?


102 posted on 11/12/2022 8:06:39 AM PST by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Golden Eagle
So, Mr. Trump, how much of the $150+ million that you collected for your “Election Security Fund” in 2021 has been spent to secure elections? The repots out there say zero.

That's actually not true, although President Trump is working behind the scenes so it's not surprising that you're out of the loop. Most likely, President Trump is leaving the $$$ in the Election Security Fund to distract from his private, and little reported, giving behind the scenes. Are you aware he's personally helping with the legal expenses of Jan. 6th defendents?
103 posted on 11/12/2022 8:10:13 AM PST by Observator
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To: McGruff

It’s their law. I have no idea why they do it that way.


104 posted on 11/12/2022 8:16:21 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Observator
Are you aware he's personally helping with the legal expenses of Jan. 6th defendents?

I don't think anyone is, as much as we'd like to hear it. What information do you have to share? So far all I've heard him say is that if he's elected in 24, he'll consider a pardon for some of them, which isn't much help, now.

105 posted on 11/12/2022 8:24:44 AM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: Coronal
Was it Stalinesque when Brian Kemp did the same four years ago?

Yes. It was.

It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

106 posted on 11/12/2022 8:34:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Trump Group Pays for Jan. 6 Lawyers
107 posted on 11/12/2022 8:34:26 AM PST by Observator
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To: Observator

Thanks, but I can’t open that link, as it requires you to be a NY Times subscriber, and there’s no chance of that happening. Got anything else?


108 posted on 11/12/2022 8:42:34 AM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: Lazamataz

Unfortunately you are correct. The only hope is stopping the bureaucracy and then stopping the illegal aliens. Until that happens voting really doesn’t matter much.


109 posted on 11/12/2022 9:25:18 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Or is that not technically possible.

Over 40 States say prove it is possible.

110 posted on 11/12/2022 9:28:48 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Golden Eagle
"Thanks, but I can’t open that link, as it requires you to be a NY Times subscriber, and there’s no chance of that happening. Got anything else?"

Firefox > Toggle Reader View, right there at the end the URL field, bypasses NYeT's lame firewall. If Firefox eludes you, you can always search archive.ph, as nearly NYet article is archived there.

WASHINGTON — "Former President Donald J. Trump's political organization and his allies have paid for or promised to finance the legal fees of more than a dozen witnesses called in the congressional investigation into the Jan. 6 attack, raising legal and ethical questions about whether the former president may be influencing testimony with a direct bearing on him.

The arrangement drew new scrutiny this week after Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide in his White House, made an explosive appearance before the House panel, providing damning new details about Mr. Trump’s actions and statements on the day of the deadly riot.

She did so after firing a lawyer who had been recommended to her by two of Mr. Trump’s former aides and paid for by his political action committee, and hiring new counsel.

Unlike witness tampering, which is a crime, there is nothing illegal about a third party covering legal fees for a witness. Aides to former President Bill Clinton reported being overwhelmed with legal bills because of the various inquiries into his and his family’s personal and business affairs, and were dismayed when a legal-defense fund set up by Mr. Clinton’s allies to help the first family pay its multimillion-dollar legal debts did not help them. Mr. Clinton later pledged to help raise money to cover his former aides’ legal expenses, but did not make any major effort to do so.

It was not immediately clear whether those payments were for covering legal fees connected to the Jan. 6 inquiry, but people familiar with the matter said the PAC has paid for the representation of several former officials and aides in the investigation, including some high-profile ones such as Stephen Miller, who served as a senior adviser to Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump’s PAC paid a portion of Mr. Miller’s legal bills.

More than a dozen witnesses before the Jan. 6 committee have also received free legal advice and had attorney’s fees paid for by the American Conservative Union’s “First Amendment Fund,” which consults with Mr. Trump’s team about whose fees to cover from its “seven-figure” finances, according to Matt Schlapp, the organization’s chairman."


111 posted on 11/12/2022 11:54:04 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver; Observator
Former President Donald J. Trump's political organization and his allies have paid for or promised to finance the legal fees of more than a dozen witnesses called in the congressional investigation into the Jan. 6 attack, raising legal and ethical questions about whether the former president may be influencing testimony with a direct bearing on him.

Thank you for the excerpt, although we are supposed to limit anything from NYT being posted here. But if correct, Trump is planning to pay the legal fees of a few (~12) witnesses being called into the Jan 6 hearings. There's not enough information presented that I saw to know for sure, but this actually sounds more about legal fees surrounding their testimony, not charges for being on Capital grounds etc, although it could be both for those few, if they were even charged.

Therefore it appears that the only people that Trump is trying to help here are those dozen or so who he now needs help from, which could unfortunately now be an issue for him if it's ruled witness tampering, which was the basis of the article. My concern has always been about the thousands of others that needed legal support, but got none from anyone, for simply being there that day. Sorry if I sound negative but there's just not much here to hang a hat on if you've been concerned that Trump did little for those prosecuted for January 6.

112 posted on 11/12/2022 1:13:55 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: Golden Eagle
"Thank you for the excerpt, although we are supposed to limit anything from NYT being posted here...There's not enough information presented that I saw to know for sure."

I gave you the link to the entire article. What I posted was well within the boundaries of Fair Use, and if you doubt me [ Report Abuse ] and it will still be here tomorrow.

"Therefore it appears that the only people that Trump is trying to help here are those dozen or so who he now needs help from."

You literally just said, "There's not enough information presented that I saw to know for sure.", and after that acknowledgment of your own lack of evidence, and insufficient research, proceed directly to "Therefore it appears that the only people that Trump is ...witness tampering, which was the basis of the article.".

"Sorry if I sound negative"

You're. just. another. Freeptard.

113 posted on 11/12/2022 4:01:14 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver
Therefore it appears

Is that exerpt of my post clear enough for you? I made no final determinations.

As I said, it appears that Trump is only helping the dozen or so that he wants to testify for him, out of the hundreds that have been charged.

Are you disputing that, or not?

114 posted on 11/12/2022 4:12:55 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: Golden Eagle
Listen, I'm not going to be quite as harsh, but let's be real.

You claimed President Trump was hoarding his cash and not helping J6 defendents. I'll told you he was, and on request I provided a link. Instead of reading the link, you claimed you couldn't read it because of a paywall. Another poster helpfully told you how to read the article in full, and provided an excerpt. Then you complained about posting the excerpt. Do you seriously expect us all to curate your information for you to your specific standards?

I honestly can't tell, but if you hate Trump why not just say so?
115 posted on 11/12/2022 5:12:24 PM PST by Observator
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To: Observator

The NYT is not a great source to reference on FR, and it is even discouraged by the site owners and admins, and can even lead to account suspension.. Most know that. However, some do not, so I was just making sure.

I will give you your due, you proved that Trump may actually be helping a few J6 people after all. For that, I am glad to hear it, and thank you for the information.

However, like most things about Trumo, there are some caveats that are negative. This help is almost two years late, for starters. He’s also apparently only helping a sliver of people who have been charged, and it seems to be conditional on them helping him by providing favorable testimony. Worst of all, only helping these few J6 protesters instead of them all gives the impression it’s being done in exchange for theiir testimony, which may be a crime.

That’s just the overall summary. If you don’t believe any of that is correct, let’s hear why. Thanks again.


116 posted on 11/12/2022 5:26:22 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: Golden Eagle
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I appreciate the background on the NYT. FWIW, I have read the same info all over the web, that was just the first search result that came up.

I personally believe President Trump is helping J6 defendents in ways that have been documented, and ways that we don't necessarily know about.

I admit I can't prove all of that in a court of law, but if you've observed President Trump's pattern of behavior (for example not taking a salary, and no one knew until he left office) the pattern is clear.
117 posted on 11/12/2022 5:35:00 PM PST by Observator
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