Its too late for this now.
The rot is too deep. Heck protecting abortion even won in Kentucky when it was put on the ballot!
If you can even get the majority of people in Kentucky to support saving babies, it’s game over.
And don’t even get me started on the gays... omg.. they have infiltrated the youth so thoroughly .. I am convinced something is in the water! there is no freaking way the vast majority of Teen boys suddenly have no interest in girls!
Rather than secede, how about we throw the blue states OUT of the Union?
Cancel California!
Nope to New York!
Move out, Massachusetts!
Wipe Washington!
Thank you for referencing that article Roman_War_Criminal.
As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.
If Democratic and RINO state lawmakers were brought up to speed with the Supreme Court's clarification of the federal government's constitutionally limited power to appropriate taxes, then they may agree to the simple amendment to the Constitution mentioned further down.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
If state lawmakers understood that the funding that they regularly receive from the federal government is arguably state revenues that the unconstitutionally big federal government steals from the states by means of unconstitutional taxes indicated by the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above, then they might agree to the following.
Consider that ALL the states can effectively “secede” from the corrupt federal government by ratifying a new amendment to the Constitution that does nothing more than repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popularly elected federal senators) Amendments, arguably little or ideally no discussion required.
Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped then the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenue (imo) that they can use to increase teacher, police, firefighter salaries for example.
The states can also build and maintain their own infrastructure which the corrupt feds have no express constitutional power to tax and spend for anyway imo.
In fact, respected constitutional experts, including Supreme Court justices, have emphasized that the delegates to the constitutional convention had left the care of the people with states, not the federal government.
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
"Many are the exercises of power reserved to the States [emphasis added] wherein a uniformity of proceeding would be advantageous to all. Such are quarantines, health laws, regulations of the press, banking institutions, training militia, etc., etc." —Thomas Jefferson to James Sullivan, 1807.
"They form a portion of that immense mass of legislation, which embrace every thing in the territory of a state not surrendered to the general government [emphasis added]. Inspection laws, quarantine laws, and health laws, as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state, and others, which respect roads, fences, &c. are component parts of state legislation, resulting from the residuary powers of state sovereignty. No direct power over these is given to congress, and consequently they remain subject to state legislation, though they may be controlled by congress, when they interfere with their acknowledged powers." —Justice Joseph Story, Article I, Section 10, Clause 2, 1833.
From the congressional record, clarification by Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
“… endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states.“
Sounds good to me.
Nah..
while others endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states.
Most of the filthy cities need to be "seceded" from the states. Let them form their own state(s).
The Demonparty have all but locked up America. Going forward they will never again lose any election they feel they can’t lose. They are exactly where they want to be with one exception: the second amendment. There is no way they want any type of secession movement to even remotely gain traction. They need at this point to put down a “sedition “ violently and fast. So they will manufacture one, small enough to control that will justify their slaughter and the ensuing police state.
These animals were cornered with the 2020 election so they went all in and stole it, artlessly and obviously. They know more and more Americans are rejecting their demonstrably insane rule. They have to act before things get out of hand for them. They are illegitimate so there are no moral constraints or concerns. Only, at this point, necessity. They don’t have an army, only the state.
Fourth Turning.
“History is seasonal and winter is coming. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and the twin emergencies of the Great Depression in World War II. The risk of catastrophe will be high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” (The Fourth Turning, Strauss & Howe, 1997)
Libtards are irredeemable - there is no common ground with genocidal zombie maniacs
We can say we’ll secede, and we might give it a good try, but we’ll be stopped in our tracks. They have the military and they’re not afraid to use it. Once we’ve been annihilated, all of our stuff is right there for the taking.
Why should we secede and let the commies have any of the beautiful land our people built? They hate it anyway. I say we kick them out like we did the Tories in 1783.
Not sure about Alaska or Utah. The blue/red boundaries would likely change and be rounded off as red counties in blue states would want to become part of the red states. Biggest issue is that most every red state has a big blue city in it. Southern IL would likely want to join MO but there's St Louis hellhole separating them. Red states would have to pass some laws that would make leftists want to move out. Mandatory open carry and stand your ground laws.
By abrogating many federal laws, California and Oregon have in effect already seceded from the Union. Both are in reality no longer America