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Zelensky is facing a Valley Forge moment
The hill ^ | 12/18/2022 | EARLE MACK, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Posted on 12/18/2022 11:28:09 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Williams

Ukraine haters here are deluded scumbags.
Make me puke.
Do you know what all of you jackasses have against Zelensky in substance?
Absolutely not a damn thing.
His country was invaded by a nuclear superpower. He and his country have fought as true heroes against incredible odds.

And you ignorant dopes sit behind your keyboards typing out fantasies about homosexuality and Soros.

You’re despicable.

Deluded scumbags
Jackasses
Ignorant dopes
Despicable

An emotional outbursts is not a logical argument.


61 posted on 12/18/2022 12:52:04 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: DesertRhino

DesertRhino:Obscenity to compare that nazi homosexual social media clown to the Father of our Country and his inspired leadership. Zelenisky isn’t fit to clean Washington’s boots.
And Washington himself would be horrified that we were in a war deep in eastern Ukraine, the Donbass and western Russian. Also that we were allied with nazis when he learned what nazis were.

Washington owned slaves. No leader has ever been without faults. Not one. Washington was one our greatest Presidents. War brought out the best in him. Zelensky is not perfect but no one can doubt he has done remarkably well holding together Ukraine and uniting it’s people.


62 posted on 12/18/2022 12:52:07 PM PST by natalie227
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To: Williams

The notable thing about your reply and those of the other posters who have criticized my post is that none of you has disagreed with my basic proposition that Zelensky if trying to get us into WWW III, an unspeakable horror that would devastate the entire world. Remember, WWW I started over a dispute regarding Serbia, a dispute that just wasn’t worth the resulting devastation. Same applies here.


63 posted on 12/18/2022 12:53:09 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Williams
I don’t know, was Churchill freezing during WW2? Not really relevant is it? But I’ve seen Z visit the war zone. Don’t believe Churchill ever did.

You need only google it to find out.

Winston Churchill visits the Tactical Headquarters of the 9th Australian Division near El Alamein, August 5th, 1942. He is being greeted by General W.H.C. Ramsden, commander of XXX Corps.

64 posted on 12/18/2022 12:59:15 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: Williams

Soldiers were housed in 14’ x 16’ cabins. Washington’s quarters was a two story stone house.


65 posted on 12/18/2022 1:03:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Williams

Soldiers were housed in 14’ x 16’ cabins. Washington’s quarters was a two story stone house.


66 posted on 12/18/2022 1:03:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Flick Lives

TY


67 posted on 12/18/2022 1:04:33 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Robert DeLong

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68 posted on 12/18/2022 1:05:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Williams

Nailed it. Anything to attempt own the libs, to the point of spooning Putin. Tens of thousands have been killed because of an invasion by a foreign country and here this place is taking sides with the invader. I remember how people in this place characterize the border crisis as an invasion by foreign people. Are those invaders the good guys?


69 posted on 12/18/2022 1:05:46 PM PST by guido911
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To: libstripper

Zelensky is trying to win and for his country to survive. It’s up to us to control our level of involvement.

Certainly if you want to say Z is “trying” to cause WW3, then Putin is trying even harder to start WW3.


70 posted on 12/18/2022 1:07:06 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: G Larry

GLarry:I doubt Zelensky has the Grace of God working on his behalf...

11 months of war against one of the strongest superpowers in the world and Russia is giving up land. Ukraine 44 million people, Russia 140 million. Russia making huge battlefield blunders and tactical errors one after another. Ukraine sounds like the one with divine providence.


71 posted on 12/18/2022 1:08:03 PM PST by natalie227
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To: Sacajaweau

ty


72 posted on 12/18/2022 1:08:06 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Renfrew

Another one without a clue.

Zelensky ran on the platform of implementing Minsk in 2019.

Putin and Zelensky finally agree. Here’s why that’s a bad thing.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/12/05/putin-and-zelensky-finally-agree-heres-why-thats-a-bad-thing/

“In 2019, Zelensky was elected in large part because his platform of making peace with Russia and signing the Minsk II Agreement won him the Russian-speaking vote in the south and east. But to fulfill his promise, Zelensky had to have the support of the U.S. He didn’t get it. Abandoned and under pressure, Zelensky refused to implement the agreement. The U.S. then failed to pressure him back onto the road of diplomacy.”

It was brokered by Merkel, who just recently confessed it was a deception. Powerful people in Europe going to ask why?

If she’s honest she is going to admit that Germany was blackmailed by the US, that incidentally was tapping her phone at the time.

Here’s the agreement but you won’t read it. You’re lost.

https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/%7B65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9%7D/s_res_2202.pdf


73 posted on 12/18/2022 1:11:54 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Chunga85

“If she’s honest she is going to admit that Germany was blackmailed by the US”

So you admit that the Obama regime forced the Minsk agreement upon the unwilling Europeans?


74 posted on 12/18/2022 1:16:11 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: PGR88

No, but Sally Hemings was... j/k


75 posted on 12/18/2022 1:19:13 PM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Williams; libstripper

Wag the Dog was about a war that didn’t exist.

Are you that stupid?

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Actually...It was about more than a war.

The message of wag the dog?
The metaphor “wag the dog” is meant to show the power of the media. A dog is smarter than it’s tail, and the dog controls the tail. The dog is society and the media is the tail. A dog is smarter than its tail, meaning that the tail (the media) is smarter that the dog (society).Apr 20, 2015


76 posted on 12/18/2022 1:21:32 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Renfrew

Wow, you are dense. Really, really dense. Hopelessly, unnaturally dense. Arguing with people like you is a complete waste of time.

The US interfered with the implementation.


77 posted on 12/18/2022 1:21:32 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s a bad analogy. Zelensky and Churchill in 1940 Britain would be better.


78 posted on 12/18/2022 1:44:15 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Williams

“One year in, the Ukrainian people want to fight”
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Yeah sure, that’s why Ukraine made it illegal for males 18-60 to leave the country - and those who tried anyway were shot at. Why is it all you pro-Ukies seem to live in a delusional fantasyland of your own making?


79 posted on 12/18/2022 1:49:46 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

“Zelensky shut down and arrested opposition political parties along with opposition media, and they pretend it’s a democracy?”

So did Abraham Lincoln.


80 posted on 12/18/2022 2:04:52 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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