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Russian defense ministry confirms plan to expand army to 1.5 million troops
Kyiv Independent ^ | 1/17/23 | Kyiv Independent

Posted on 01/17/2023 10:01:42 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: Alas Babylon!
I was here for Tony Snow, Alas Babylon!. I go back to the beginning, having attended the March for Justice in DC along with Dr Raoul and two bus loads of FReepers from the NJ/PA. We were a movement back then, unified in every way. 9/11 and Bush #43 changed the nation. His compassionate conservativism mixed in with Cheney's neoconservativism has left a schism that remains today. DJT gave me hope, and I agreed completely when he said, "wouldn't it be great if we could get along with Russia" His political instincts are remarkable, but unfortunately indigestible to permanent Washington. And to the NeverTrumpers who dominate these threads. Too much money to be made and too much Wokeism to tolerate a $billionaire populist.

Whatever Jim decides to do with these threads, I could care less. In the end I will still be a staunch opponent against war, unless and until it endangers America and our national interests.

41 posted on 01/17/2023 12:06:27 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Alas Babylon!

I said much the same thing: I support Ukraine defending itself against an unwarranted invasion by a bigger and stronger neighbor. I support the Ukrainian people defending themselves REGARDLESS who their president is; who their president is, to me, immaterial.

Jon Preston is just a provocateur. And a pretty poor one, at that. That’s why it’s entertaining to yank his chain. He generally responds with his standard default: “Hush!”


42 posted on 01/17/2023 12:09:26 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Jon Preston is just a provocateur

It's forum etiquette to ping a member to a thread when discussing him.

43 posted on 01/17/2023 12:19:19 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Forgive me fraud, is it 1999 or 2023?

Now you want to argue something you believe NATO did wrong in 1999.


44 posted on 01/17/2023 12:25:03 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
you want to argue something you believe NATO did wrong in 1999

I don't want to argue it, I want to put facts regarding NATO aggression under your ample nose in hopes that a light goes on. Some say educating you is a hopeless cause, and I'm understanding why.

45 posted on 01/17/2023 12:30:41 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Agree with you FRiend. We might disagree on some things, but those things you point out we should and do agree on.

Thank you!


46 posted on 01/17/2023 12:30:55 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: JonPreston

It is clear Vlad has been planning since the beginning for NATO intervention or escalation. He would be a fool to trust the collective West. Deploying only 15 percent of his military for the SMO was prudent, increasing his military to counter the possibility of Nato escalation is wise.


47 posted on 01/17/2023 12:31:11 PM PST by delta7
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To: Alas Babylon!

“US confirms Donald Trump’s push to move troops east with Poland signing”

Trump was correct in placing our American NATO GIs closer to the enemy threat.


48 posted on 01/17/2023 12:33:22 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: delta7
He would be a fool to trust the collective West.

yes he would. Both Angela Merkel and then-French President François Hollande now admit the Minsk agreement was a ruse, to give Ukraine time to weaponize.

49 posted on 01/17/2023 12:36:18 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

God help Nato if the Russians attack between Saturday and Monday. They’ll all be stoned and hung over until Tuesday.


50 posted on 01/17/2023 12:41:01 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: JonPreston; Williams

“William has left in search of more Biden talking points.”

And you’re still here regurgitating the latest nonsense from your employers at the Kremlin.

Also, it’s rude to directly mention another FReeper and not ping them to the message.


51 posted on 01/17/2023 12:41:30 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

My comment was to you, not Williams. See how this works?


52 posted on 01/17/2023 12:44:42 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

“It’s forum etiquette to ping a member to a thread when discussing him.”

Since when have you followed forum etiquette?

In any event, you obviously read my comment, so you can’t claim ignorance of it.


53 posted on 01/17/2023 12:46:53 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
In any event, you obviously read my comment

This comment, the one where you acknowledge to being a troll?

"That’s why it’s entertaining to yank his chain."

54 posted on 01/17/2023 12:49:57 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston; Williams

“My comment was to you, not Williams. See how this works?”

Again, the accepted norm around here is that if you mention someone by name in a post then you ping them to that post as a courtesy.

Not that you’d know anything about courtesy.


55 posted on 01/17/2023 12:52:03 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston

I support NATO.

You don’t. Your choice.


56 posted on 01/17/2023 12:52:05 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
I support NATO.

I support America.

57 posted on 01/17/2023 12:55:25 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: delta7

Had he not invaded Ukraine in the first place he wouldn’t have to concern himself about what NATO would or would not do. He set the ball rolling (A), so should not be surprised if it rolls back to him (B). B is a consequence of A. Remove A, and there is no B.


58 posted on 01/17/2023 12:56:28 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Alas Babylon!

They are talking about the RGF and maybe the Naval Infantry, not the Nationals Guard, or VKS.

The RGF in Jan 2021 was around 260,000 professional, the Naval Infantry around 20,000. The National Guard was around 350,000 with most used for guarding borders and such like and cannot be spared in bulk for Ukraine.

Conscripts don’t count.


59 posted on 01/17/2023 12:56:31 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JonPreston

No you don’t but again that’s your choice.

America has been in NATO approx 75 years. America is opposing Russian aggression.

You don’t support America.


60 posted on 01/17/2023 12:57:10 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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