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Kyiv helicopter crash kills 18, top Ukraine officials dead
AP ^ | 18 Jan 2023 | ANDREW MELDRUM

Posted on 01/18/2023 2:11:59 AM PST by blueplum

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To: KobraKai

Sadly it’s somewhat the cynical way I now look at global politics and society. It is ethnic and tribal too because that is what connects insiders. No one trusts the Ukrainian deep state leadership any more than trusting our USA institutional deep state. They are likely one and the same too, and always wanting to steal what you have along with your rights, freedoms and opportunities. If you accept it you will have nothing.

It is the average people who pay and in worst case scenario have their lives and homes lost and turned upside down while the schemers and media always get richer. Others are genocide d as in Nazi Germany. Ultra Greedy Russian oligarchs SBF and Madoff are truly experts at stealing public assets from peers so they get rich and influence crooked politicians pretending to be righteous.

Tucker Carlson is 150% correct on Ukraine.


61 posted on 01/18/2023 3:20:41 PM PST by apoliticalone (We need real justice not fictitious SOCIAL JUSTICE & DEI that is politics & propaganda, not justice.)
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To: struggle
Zelensky told them to stop doing that in 2019 and they told Zelensky if he tried to stop them, they’d kill him.

Notice how this truth bounced right off the angry neoconned retreads on this thread...

62 posted on 01/18/2023 5:35:59 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Russia can bring back its troop swiftly from Ukraine by a simple decision.

Again with the single dumbest Ukraine opinion ever seen on Free Republic, retread.

63 posted on 01/18/2023 5:37:31 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Jaust22
Probably the most idiotic comment I’ve read regarding this conflict

He'll be doing stand up comedy here all week. Don't forget to tip the waitress.

64 posted on 01/18/2023 5:54:21 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: lodi90

When I was in the Navy, I was watching a guy work on a helicopter rotor on the flight deck.

I was a jet engine mechanic, but looking at that black, greasy looking mass of rods and moving parts on top of that helo, it was disconcerting to me. I only took a ride in a Sea King once to repair once of our birds that had diverted to Sigonella due to a mechanical failure, and didn’t even think about it.

But as I looked, there seemed like too damn many moving parts to be reliable to me.

I asked the mechanic what it was like to work on that versus a jet engine, and we began to talk.

He tapped a part up in that rotor and said grinningly: “We call this the “Jesus Nut”.

Puzzled, I asked why, and he said “Because if something goes wrong with that, you’re going to visit Jesus!”


65 posted on 01/18/2023 6:06:51 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: kiryandil

>Notice how this truth bounced right off the angry neoconned retreads on this thread

You talk about how the west basically financed the Maidan Revolution with Soros and others and they just go, “but Russia invaded,” and you say “yeah, I don’t like Putin either.”

The whole point is that we’re going to end up with 250,000 dead total and nothing will change. In fact, Ukraine will become weaker.


66 posted on 01/18/2023 6:07:49 PM PST by struggle
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To: Jolla

I took a lesson to learn how to fly a helicopter. Heh, you paid some sum of money, you did a ground school, then they took you up in a tiny helo and let you fly it. It was fun.

Not really learning how to fly in one lesson, but it was fun. They let you try to hover, and...I couldn’t do it. I am certain the trainer had his hands ready in an instant to retake control with a doofus like me at the helm.

But there was one thing he showed us that the “students” did not get to try:

Autorotation.

Now, I thought autorotation, if you had an engine failure, you could just kind of spin slowly to the ground and do a hard but controlled landing.

LOL. It was NOTHING like that.

I didn’t think it would be that steep coming in.


67 posted on 01/18/2023 6:25:16 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: kiryandil; All

“Russia can bring back its troop swiftly from Ukraine by a simple decision.”

>>>>>>>

You just said the phrase above is “stupid”, really?

Well, in that case let me tell you this:
Let’s pray America never gets someone like you as a peace-negotiator one day... in case our country is being invaded by a foreign power in the future!

Because in such a scenario (since you think asking an invader to withdraw its troops is stupid) you would instead just be welcoming the invasion force, telling them: Thank you for invading us, because I’m not stupid!

Think about this for a while...


68 posted on 01/18/2023 8:02:13 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: rlmorel

Autorotation.

It was fast I am sure but you survived the crash?


69 posted on 01/19/2023 5:45:45 AM PST by Jolla
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To: jerod

right....accident....no way......


70 posted on 01/19/2023 8:05:37 AM PST by conservative_cyclist (Trump Fan from Day 1, keep America Safe)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Unless it was by design


71 posted on 01/19/2023 9:55:37 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: Jolla

Heh, no! He didn’t actually land it, he stopped about 25 feet up (I think)

I thought it was going to be this “floating down” think but he dove towards the ground instead!


72 posted on 01/19/2023 10:26:06 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: DrewsMum

;-)


73 posted on 01/19/2023 12:54:08 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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