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U.S. prepares to send Abrams tanks to Ukraine in major reversal for Biden administration
NBC News ^ | Jan. 24, 2023 | By Courtney Kube, Mosheh Gains and Carol E. Lee

Posted on 01/25/2023 9:08:29 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Magnum44

I thought we did lose a couple in Iraq as the jihadis came up with some new form of IED / anti-tank explosive.


61 posted on 01/25/2023 9:43:51 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man. )
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To: dpetty121263

I’m moving, but not bc of this.


62 posted on 01/25/2023 9:45:28 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Thank God Donald Trump had the foresight and saved the ONLY M-1 Abrams tank factory from being closed!!!!

How President Trump Saved The Last Tank Plant In America

63 posted on 01/25/2023 9:46:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: pierrem15

I believe that latest redesigned and upgraded Abrams are already or almost already being produced. Diesel-electric powered.


64 posted on 01/25/2023 9:46:51 AM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Magnum44

ISIS
https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-destroying-us-tank-active-protection-2016-11

Yemen

https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/13940902000554/Yemeni-Missiles-Desry-4-US-Made-Abrams-Tanks-f-Sadi-Arabia

https://defence-blog.com/saudi-m1a1-abrams-tank-destroyed-by-yemens-fighters/

Syria

https://youtu.be/Xjka0IYe4lo

German Leopards mauled in Syria

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/germany’s-leopard-2-tank-syria-was-beaten-badly-battle-why-78441

Prediction: these tanks No Wunderwaffen vs Russian army


65 posted on 01/25/2023 9:50:53 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Rummyfan

Russian Kornets take out Abrams

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20141126.aspx


66 posted on 01/25/2023 9:53:10 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Most don’t realize the kind of game changer this could be.

Most enemies that were destroyed by the M1 never saw it attacking them.

If Ukraine knows how to use them, they could easily take that company of tanks and barrel right into Moscow with them.


67 posted on 01/25/2023 9:53:43 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: OKSooner

I think about two companies.


68 posted on 01/25/2023 9:54:52 AM PST by oldskoolwargamer2
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To: OKSooner

Probably enough for a Ukranian tank battalion structure that was influenced by Russian design structure.


69 posted on 01/25/2023 9:56:30 AM PST by damper99
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To: silverleaf

Thanks for those links


70 posted on 01/25/2023 9:59:32 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Better plan is to send them a map of Afghanistan and tell them they can have everything they can retrieve. Would save us a lot of money.


71 posted on 01/25/2023 10:05:49 AM PST by wbslws
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To: tlozo

Truly? Then why did the US and NATO wait 11 months after the war started before we sending them tanks?

I believe the FReeper “Speedy in Texas” posts a daily running total of equipment losses for both Russia and Ukraine, and based upon those numbers it sure looks like Ukrainian losses are only a fraction compared to Russian losses. It’s rather pathetic.


72 posted on 01/25/2023 10:05:58 AM PST by Four of Six
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To: Vermont Lt

Guess you never heard of a Russian ballistic missile submarine, have you? They can launch from any direction and many times they lay right of the Eastern seaboard...be on target in less than 15 minutes.


73 posted on 01/25/2023 10:06:04 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: Gunslingr3

Probably more broken by poor Iraqi maintenance and operators than by ISIL actions. I’d be surprised if Ukraine can’t do better on that front. Of course Russia should be surprised if her forces can’t do more intended damage than ISIL


74 posted on 01/25/2023 10:11:18 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris a events are called dodo ops)
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To: dpetty121263

Those noisy things? You been watching too much hunt for Red October.


75 posted on 01/25/2023 10:14:02 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: elpadre

The fact much of DC lives in mansions with second million dollar homes on the beach (and they do it on less than $200,000 a year) - is of concern and it’s telling.

The fact Hillary and Billy would go to third world countries (that needed ‘our help’) and charge $10,000 A MINUTE for their ‘speeches’ while knowing their hosts had to hire citizens to listen to the ‘speeches’ is nuts.

It was a bribe - - and our press was too stupid to see it.

There are hundreds of examples. So is our country corrupt? Yeah, it’s becoming a hellhole in many ways...

Can we make it better? Yes. We haven’t passed the point of no return.


76 posted on 01/25/2023 10:15:01 AM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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To: GOPJ

Yes, and that is why I believe in MAGA so much!


77 posted on 01/25/2023 10:18:44 AM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: The Great RJ

IIRC RE they’re recently gifted Patriot missiles, Ukrainians trained on them in US. For some weapon systems they’ve trained within other countries in Europe. Don’t think I’ve heard of US forces doing training in Ukraine. On the other hand I have heard Iran sent trainers and/or operators with the drones they sold Russia.


78 posted on 01/25/2023 10:22:06 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris a events are called dodo ops)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

79 posted on 01/25/2023 10:26:06 AM PST by al baby (Yes he did he said how come i wasnt invited )
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To: Vermont Lt

Might be noisy but once they pop the tops the Eastern Seaboard and it’s in habitants will take on a Greenish glow especially Vermont.. Are you, are you ready for that great atomic power?


80 posted on 01/25/2023 10:26:13 AM PST by dpetty121263
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