Posted on 02/06/2023 6:48:15 PM PST by River Hawk
Do you really think we elected Biden?
Do you really think we elected Katie Hobbs?
Looks to me like your governors race numbers are somewhat reflective of your abortion issue numbers.
yep- wondering where to go. Is there any other place on this earth that has a respect for 1A?
We’ve always had commies, though. What’s different now is the opposition to them is being hollowed out by the Pro-China corportists on the one hand and the Chomskyite post modern conservatives on the other. It will all be over soon for the great American experiment unless we quickly rediscover the moral core of conservatism that Reagan bequeathed to us.
I don’t think you understand what I mean by the commie traitors.
I mean they are half the population of the country. I am not speaking of a few official government politicians they voted in, and some corporate people with power, etc. I mean your neighbors. They voted in commies because they fully embrace fascist communism. And they know it. They hate the USA, and they know it - they are the regular people who live next door.
When you have a groundswell like that, it’s almost impossible to alter without real “civil war”.
“because nobody is compromising”
Of course nobody is compromising, because this is a civilization-defining issue, just like slavery was. Eventually, one side will win, and the other will lose, and that will be the end of it, but until then, there can be no possible compromise.
Well, the vast majority of voters disagree with you, so perhaps you need to look at issues that actually affect you.
“the vast majority of voters disagree with you”
The truth isn’t a popularity contest.
Your position of no compromise isn’t the truth. We don’t live in a theocracy, and even if we did, your position of no compromise no exception is not Biblical.
“Your position of no compromise isn’t the truth.”
It’s not my position, it’s just the facts of the matter. We have two groups of people (not just one) in this country who will brook no compromise on this question. Anytime you are in a situation like that, the matter will remain unresolved until one of those two groups permanently defeats the other and consigns them to political irrelevancy.
You can reject that observation, but then you’ll just continue to be frustrated because neither of those groups will ever compromise like you are advocating, and you’ll probably continue to be perplexed as to why they won’t.
Ken Hamlin wrote a book about American exceptionalism. His tagline was “Name a better place”. His nickname was
“The Black Avenger”. Had a radio show for a while.
Well you have a no exception abortion ban polling at 13%. Inflicting their will on everybody else is a bit of a heavy lift for 13%. I don’t think it’s going to go the way you think. Compromise is how things get done, which is why compromise is under fire, in order to keep the status quo. What is the one constant?
Incorrect. Compromise is sometimes how things get done, until you arrive at an issue on which no compromise is possible, in which case compromise will get you nowhere. Attempting to find a compromise on such an issue is as foolish as refusing to compromise on an issue on which compromise is possible.
Well, in the case of slavery, no compromise was needed because only one party’s interests were being infringed upon. In the case of abortion, you have two parties occupying the same human body, so compromises must be made or else you are stripping one of the party’s of the right to life and liberty, etc. etc. which makes the “no compromise” position unconstitutional prima facie.
“In the case of abortion, you have two parties occupying the same human body, so compromises must be made or else you are stripping one of the party’s of the right to life and liberty, etc. etc. which makes the “no compromise” position unconstitutional prima facie.”
See the problem with this assessment is that you think you can argue your way around the situation, when in fact, both parties will continue to refuse to compromise no matter what you say. There’s nothing you can say to convince the “abortion is murder” crowd that compromise is possible, and there’s also nothing that you can say to convince the “abortion is a human right” crowd that compromise is possible either.
You may have convinced yourself, but you’ll not convince them.
So you think that 87% of people should be held hostage by 13% if they but refuse to agree to disagree? Goodness, what you must think of the reparations issue!
“So you think that 87% of people should be held hostage by 13% if they but refuse to agree to disagree?”
I think it’s not a question of “should” at all actually. There’s no referee in politics you can go crying to about how things “should” be.
The fact is, if that 13% can cause one party to lose every election going forward if their demands aren’t met, then that party will probably continue to cater to their demands. And if you think that is not fair, there is not anything you can really do about it. At some point, that 13% may no longer be 13%, and they may not be able to make such demands, and in that case, the other side will have won. But we’re not there yet.
“Goodness, what you must think of the reparations issue!”
What of it? If blacks really wanted them, and they were smart, they could hold the Democrat party hostage on that issue too, and then they would get them. But they (or the leaders they are following at least) are not that smart.
Well, if that is the opinion of a sufficient number of people, the GOP will be dead then, since your demands will lose them more voters than they will gain by kowtowing to your faction. Those other voters are not going to vote for your policy simply because you are obstinent.
I think this will be bad news for the reparations movement, though, because the Democrats will become much more popular and that faction’s power will be diluted if what you say is followed through upon by 13% of voters in the GOP.
They might be able to save themselves, but I don’t think they would defy the no-exception people, while going to war with the open borders donors, while opening their primaries, and while running on the long ignored consensus issues that will Make America Great Again, and while completely reconfiguring their voter outreach to incorporate the grassroots.
More than likely what they will do is just lie. It’s easier.
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