Posted on 02/07/2023 9:34:05 AM PST by JonPreston
Propaganda... First you need the propa... Then you need the ganda... This has both. One thing is true... Russia sent millions to their deaths with no weapons, no ammunition and no hope... That’s why they lost over 20 million during world war 2... Oh... And they also shot anybody who didn’t fight.
The good news... They beat the allies to Berlin, then they killed and raped as many Germans as they could... Propaganda goes a long way for a long time.
The West would have to set up a false flag operation and blame Russia for it in order to justify a nuclear strike. (which I wouldn’t put past them).
We live in country where all major media is controlled by leftists and government-connected elites, where social media sites have literal armies of FBI and CIA employees controlling content, where this is all weaponized for the state and against conservatives, where in many NATO countries in Europe, "hate-speech" laws have led to the arrest of many thousands of people who make posts governments do not like
And you still are so unaware (or fake) that you criticize any questioning of the Ukraine narrative as "Russian propaganda?"
Right, we should not be supporting Ukrainians defending their land because people will die. Okay
This is beyond stupid not sure how to respond. Good luck with life lol
More than anyone else the Soviet Union shattered Hitler's Third Reich. Celebrate that and the sacrifice it took.
The few tanks they are sending (which won’t arrive anytime soon) are meaningless from a military standpoint. Once Bakhmut falls its clear sailing for the Russians to overwhelm what’s left of the Ukrainian military.
And they are grabbing men from the streets to forcibly enlist them.
I think Ukraine just passed something to make that legal.
Men in Ukraine dress like old women to go to the store.
Bump to #45.
“It’s disgusting they keep throwing their young people into this mess to die for nothing.”
They are banned from leaving the country to save their lives.
That is the “democracy” the Neocons keep talking about....
I am not aware of your favorite clown in this murderous clown show, but as an old guy who wore olive drab in our Vietnam "era," I can guaran-damn-tee you that, were I "taking" any area which might have small explosive devices littering the ground and buried from view, I would have been "taking" ground very, very slowly. Boom is very often not survivable in one piece, whether Ukrainian, Russian or mercenary. Ever seen the aftermath of a claymore? How about those petal bombs? Slow is the absolute best policy, irrespective of in which peanut gallery you sit, comfortably away from "boom."
Head of Wagner said Ukrainians have built defensive positions behind Bakhmut
What is this string of nonsense trying to say? that Russia is responsible for its own dead in WWII?
The counterattack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Artyomovsk failed due to the deception of the commanders: Details
On February 3, during the fighting in the area of the village of Krasnaya Gora, at least 25 military servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, mobilized in the Cherkasy, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk and Zhytomyr regions of Ukraine and sent to the Artemovsk region, surrendered to the RF Armed Forces.
According to the Military Chronicle, upon arrival in Chasov Yar, the Ukrainian mobilized were given partially faulty weapons and forced to sign for the receipt of NLAW anti-tank systems, Grg M48 Carl Gustaf and French Milan anti-tank systems, which they promised to give to the mobilized elsewhere.
After painting in the documents, the mobilized were sent to the positions of the 61st Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the village of Krasnaya Gora without additional weapons. Instead of being equipped with foreign anti-tank systems, they were armed with Soviet RPG-7 without additional shots. After that, the mobilized were sent to the most active site of clashes - the first line of defense in the area of Lenin and Pobeda streets.
By the evening of February 3, after a series of powerful artillery strikes and a three-hour operation of the T-72B3 and T-80BV tanks on the positions of the Ukrainian troops, officers and regular Ukrainian soldiers of the 1st and 2nd rifle battalions of the 61st Infantry Brigade left their positions, leaving the mobilized without ammunition , communications and medicines.
Instead of retreating to positions deep into the village, the mobilized laid down their arms and on the night of February 4 went to the positions of the RF Armed Forces, after which they were searched and taken prisoner. According to the Ukrainian mobilized prisoners, a similar situation with the deception of commanders who send reinforcements to the most difficult sectors of the front without weapons and reinforcements is also observed in the 57th motorized infantry, 24th and 30th mechanized brigades.
According to the prisoners, from communication with colleagues, it was possible to find out that the weapons, for which those mobilized sign upon arrival at the fortified area of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Chasovoy Yar, never arrived in this direction and did not fall into the hands of advanced units in Krasnaya Gora and Paraskovievka. Presumably, heavy weapons, the loss of which is being attributed to the mobilized, was either sold or lost by the Ukrainian army in the battles for Soledar and Podgorodnoe.
“What has happened?”
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Many conservatives are waking up to the propaganda, that is what is happening.
Yeah I saw a video of them grabbing a 16 & 17 y/o’s from their mother the other day, Zelensky is getting desperate.
None of us know what’s happening over there. It’s just pixels on a screen.
These overhyped media numbers are just used to demoralize and try to keep enlistments down. I was an RTO in an air mobile Infantry company during Tet 68 which had a much publicized life expectancy of just 5 minutes in a firefight. 4 months of very constant firefights showed this was a really made up factoid by media to probably deter enlistments.
It comes as no surprise to me that the Ukrainian propagandists here today are mostly the same as the FR Branch Covidians of 2020.
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