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Ukrainian serviceman: Soldiers of the 30th brigade, which arrived near Bakhmut, simply run away at the sight of the enemy, since they have nothing to shoot with
Military Review ^ | 2/7/23 | Editor

Posted on 02/07/2023 9:34:05 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: larrytown

Taking over Bakhmut is a bigger deal, it cuts off the major Ukrainian resupply lines.


81 posted on 02/07/2023 11:43:09 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: amnestynone
I can’t believe anyone on this site would post Russian propaganda like this. What has happened?

Place has been taken over by people who were here mnay years before you and want no part of another $**thole-war.

Just GTFO - sniveler.

82 posted on 02/07/2023 11:49:55 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: redcatcherb412
these are not overhyped media numbers. at least not coming from our media. Look at the address on the media "“en.topwar.ru&rdquo". Ru means this is a Russian site. I do not think anyone here really trusts anything Russia says. Instead they are overhyped numbers coming directly from Russia.
83 posted on 02/07/2023 11:50:22 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: AAABEST
I bet I Have been here longer than you have. And not having another war is directly why we should support Ukraine. It is better Ukraine deals with them than us. apparently this site is now dominated by the McGovern wing of the GOP.
84 posted on 02/07/2023 11:53:28 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: All

I note Russia was the first to send aid to Turkey (a nato country) and Syria

zelensnky? nyet


85 posted on 02/07/2023 11:54:29 AM PST by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: Az Joe

So silly. It’s a war. There is no “truth.” Only retards and commies believe otherwise. Isn’t that right comrade? It’s comrade, right?


86 posted on 02/07/2023 12:06:26 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: jerod; JohnPreston

No the Russians did not send millions into battle without weapons. And they didn’t shoot everyone who retreated. There were instances where some of those things happened early in the war, but it has been wildly exaggerated. Before long the Soviets were producing so many weapons that the Germans armed themselves with Soviet weapons.

And blocking units mostly just stopped soldiers from retreating and reorganized them and sent them back to the front. Shooting them would have been worse than stupid.

Most of the books on the eastern front were written by German Generals who had a vested interest in covering their own @$$es.


87 posted on 02/07/2023 12:20:10 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: DannyTN

If they were running away, you’d think Russia could finally take Bakhmut.
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https://theduran.locals.com/post/3486872/russia-controls-one-third-bakhmut-ukraine-losses-unsustainable-us-arms-deliveries-dwindle

….the Duran has been giving clear, concise, war news from ALL sources, believe what you want to, but Bakmut is toast. He covers all news the West refuses to post, for example, the Ukies on their 12th mobilization, Ukie Congress authorizing a three month bottom scrapping mobilization, the clobbering almost daily of the Ukies AA and electricity grid, the population loss of Ukraine, etc…

Ukraine 1991-2023.


88 posted on 02/07/2023 12:21:07 PM PST by delta7
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To: amnestynone

Literally, both sides do it.<P


89 posted on 02/07/2023 12:25:24 PM PST by hcmama
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To: jimwatx
That is bad enough. But the pictures of the overweight 55-year-old bald dudes involuntarily "enlisting" is disturbing.

And yes, I have no doubt the Russians are ruthless in their conscription policy as well

90 posted on 02/07/2023 12:30:53 PM PST by hcmama
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To: struggle
They asked a Ukrainian commander if this 4-hour number was correct. He shrugged and said something like “I think it’s a little longer.”

That's what I saw. It was no official account of the life expectancy of new recruits in the fight for Bakhmut. But the soldier's response was pretty jarring

91 posted on 02/07/2023 12:36:29 PM PST by hcmama
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To: jimwatx
Taking over Bakhmut is a bigger deal, it cuts off the major Ukrainian resupply lines.

No, it doesn't. It's strategically worthless.

92 posted on 02/07/2023 1:21:41 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: delta7
….the Duran has been giving clear, concise, war news from ALL sources,


93 posted on 02/07/2023 1:23:27 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: JonPreston

Stalin “To defeat Nazi Germany, the British gave Time, the Americans gave Money, and the Soviet Union gave Blood.”


94 posted on 02/07/2023 1:42:34 PM PST by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ll wager someone is paying these War Pig Clowns.
They have a real zest for the “blood lust”.
Confront them and they will do back flips to prove some inane point.


95 posted on 02/07/2023 1:54:12 PM PST by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: jimwatx

Still sounds like Verdun.


96 posted on 02/07/2023 2:03:37 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Seruzawa

Oh... I stand corrected. I thought that was all true propaganda.


97 posted on 02/07/2023 2:32:42 PM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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