Posted on 02/19/2023 2:18:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
You are obviously a beta who is desperate enough now to resort to the basest of name calling. Grow up and procure better arguments instead.
Trotsky’s IDEAS were enough of a threat to Stalin’s way of thinking to have him cracked so as to nip them in the bud as much as possible.
Done talking to you now and reading your clearly uneducated ramblings.
Cortright hasn’t done his homework.
Trotsky was feeling from country to country and was ABSOLUTELY no threat to Stalin.
Sorry, but I am deeply educated in history. The U.S. communists and fellow travelers never turned on Stalin. Read a book by Davis Horowitz or Ron Radosh.
LOL. I’m a beta because I won’t fall for your anti=American leftist drivel.
Er, no. Never did--and not sure where you got that. The Russians did use to help the Dems more--actually wrote all their policies for them in the 1960s, '70s, and ''80s
And of course they try to help the Dems now. Today, the Dems favor a weak America because trading away pieces of our country to Russia, the Ukraine, and Red China has been a nice business for them.
Wasn’t she shacking up with Lew Rockwell? Left her marriage, IIRC.
“ They are one both sides. Biden and Obama are on Putin’s side.”
Indeed, yes.
I read your comment earlier and didn’t take it the right way.
You are exactly right.
I have no interest in seeing a bad player be rewarded with
land and mineral/or energy deposits, not saying you did or
didn’t.
In this instance, the land should be returned. > IMO
If the Russian speakers want to be a part of Russia,
Russia should facilitate them moving into Russia.
Let them sell their land in the Ukraine for a reasonable
amount, then buy/build in Russia.
That’s what we suggest for people in the U.S. who are
unhappy here.
The borders were set years ago, after careful negotiations
between Russia and the Ukraine. The time to address this
was back then. Now it needs to be handled somewhat
differently.
Agree. As Japan most recently found out war should never be the first, second or even the third resort. Putin effed up.
Having said that I’m trying to see two sides of this conflict. Those eastern provinces were part of Russia less than a hundred years ago and were arbitrarily given to Ukraine as a political sop. As such they do contain majority Russian populations. Ukraine has been fighting a separatist movement there for at least the past ten years, and given the ‘foreign interest’ in Ukraine Russia obviously honestly feels it is being encircled.
All of this should be considered. Anyway, given Russia has invested hundred(s) of thousands of lives already they will hardly be willing to begin negotiating with their withdrawal as a precondition.
Bobl on 19th February 2023 “Putin will get FAR MORE of Ukraine than he ever dreamed of.”
Bobbie, Pooptin had, on 31 March 2022, control of 27% of Ukraine.
Now he has control of less than 15%
To simplify it for you, that means he has lost nearly half of the territory he once controlled, just 10 months ago
“To simplify it for you, that means he has lost nearly half of the territory he once controlled, just 10 months ago”
I guess if you’re going to join the bunch that pretends to be 5 year olds, then I guess we’re stuck with that attitude here.
For others, Putin had ASKED for Crimea before the war started, 4% of Ukraine. He has now liberated at least 15% of the country and is well on his way to liberating FAR MORE of Ukraine, possibly all of it (although you guys will likely get to deal with the Bandera region in the far west when the new borders are drawn).
You can thank your buddies who lead NATO for this outcome...it did not have to end this way.
Putin had grabbed Crimea in 2014.
That was in violation of the 1994 Budapest agreement in which Russia signed that it would respect Ukraine’s borders.
Russia is losing thanks to Putin
Bobl “e has now liberated at least 15% of the country and is well on his way to liberating FAR MORE of Ukraine”
Grabbing territory your country had sworn (in the 1994 Budapest agreement) to respect, is not liberating.
You probably think that in 1938 to 1942 Hitler was just “liberating” German lands, eh?
“Russia is losing thanks to Putin”
If you say it 1000 times, then Putin might leave the HUGE AREAS he’s liberated...or he might not.
“Putin had grabbed Crimea in 2014. That was in violation of the 1994 Budapest agreement in which Russia signed that it would respect Ukraine’s borders.”
How’s Kosovo doing these days, Mr. NATO?
You’re changing the topic.
Do you now admit that you were wrong about any alleged “will not expand beyond East Germany “,
>Russia EXPRESSLY violated the Budapest Agreement which it SIGNED promising to respect Ukrainian borders, you say no one cares?? Typical Russian double-speak
the Budapest memorandum
According to the three memoranda,Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they agreed to the following:
1. Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory.
___________
Russia signed this and has violated protocols 1,2,3 and 5
Russia promised to not only respect Ukraine’s 1994 borders, including Crimea, but also
to
1. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
And to
2. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
Russia has violated every one of those agreements which were made with Ukraine with the only condition from Ukraine being Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.
Russia reneges on international law and promises
Grabbing territory your country had sworn (in the 1994 Budapest agreement) to respect, is not liberating.
You probably think that in 1938 to 1942 Hitler was just “liberating” German lands, eh?
“You’re changing the topic.”
Nope, perfectly happy to talk about Ukraine, providing you can explain to us why it is different than Kosovo.
So far, you REFUSE, so I’ll answer: We defined the ‘New World Order’ with Kosovo, which was AFTER Bucharest, and our rule is that if a country is strong enough, they can STEP ON THE NECK of any country they choose, as we did with Serbia.
So how’s Ukraine different, again?
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