Putin's nemesis 'poisoned in jail and is close to death' (ex-pres. of Georgia)

MSN ^ | 3-13-23

[nickfrost1]

I think you would be an exception to any Russian doing wonders, as you are somewhat short of being a sentient human being.===

Personal attack with lack of argumentation. How damn and obvious.

[ought-six]

“You are not that stupid. You just tried to make a joke but could do it funny. So I told you.”

I was not making a joke. You said 1990th. Which is a designation of a thing (such as a regimen).

Now, you are saying 1990s, as in the decade of the 1990s.

That’s when the Soviet Union collapsed and disintegrated, and former Soviet republics declared independence from the USSR and from Russia.

You sound like you wax nostalgic for the days of the Soviet Union. The same Soviet Union that murdered millions of its own people.

That speaks volumes about you, and what you want Russia to be. Russian tyranny and oppression over its people must give you the giggles; and Russian aggression over its smaller and weaker neighbors must send you into paroxysms gleeful laughter.

[ought-six]

Your posting history bears me out.

[nickfrost1]

You sound like you wax nostalgic for the days of the Soviet Union. That speaks volumes about you, and what you want Russia to be. ==

Why you made such conclusion? You know nothing about me. And also this is NOT about me at first place. You kind of prone to turn any discussion to the personal quarrel.

For me I care less who you are just I analyze what you are saying.

Russian aggression over its smaller and weaker neighbors must send you into paroxysms gleeful laughter.==

Again personal attack over personal attack. On base of those I assess I take back I said before and I think now that you just STUPID sir since you use so lame argument as ad hominem..

[ought-six]

It is telling that you do not refute anything I said.

And I drew a conclusion that you wax nostalgic for the days of the Soviet Union because you alluded to Russians suffering and being cheated without it (per your comment about the 1990s). If you were glad about the collapse of the Soviet Union you would not have made such an allusion.

Your posting history shows you support Russia’s invasion and brutalization of Ukraine. Only a bully or a sadist would applaud such an offense against a smaller and weaker neighbor.

You are known by your comments.

[nickfrost1]

It is telling that you do not refute anything I said.==

Refute what? Your stupid personal attacks? I didn’t fall for a such blame game for a long time already.

You have no intelligent argumentation since you use such a cheap way.

because you alluded to Russians suffering and being cheated without it (per your comment about the 1990s). ==

But it s a fact. This “freedom@” song I had heard before. Nothing new after 30 years. You have to update it somehow to be more convincing.

Your posting history shows you support Russia’s invasion and brutalization of Ukraine. ==

I know the history. This war just escalated now but it was started by Ukraine in 2014. Now they get what they deserved truly.

Only a bully or a sadist would applaud such an offense against a smaller and weaker neighbor.==

That “smaller and weaker” was in turn also a bully toward Russian minority who live in Ukraine on territories given them by soviet commies. It didn’t stop them to oppress Russians in Ukraine why then I will feel sorry for them now?

[ought-six]

“Refute what? Your stupid personal attacks? I didn’t fall for a such blame game for a long time already.”

They must have struck home for you to carry on so.

“You have no intelligent argumentation since you use such a cheap way.”

Here’s my argument: Russia invaded a smaller and weaker neighbor for no justifiable reason: Russia wasn’t attacked; Ukraine posed no threat to Russia; the “separatists” in eastern Ukraine were created by Russia (it’s an old playbook from back in the Soviet days, with which Putin was very familiar).

“This war just escalated now but it was started by Ukraine in 2014. Now they get what they deserved truly.”

Bull crap. It was started in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine and illegally annexed Crimea and funded and armed and joined the “separatists.” And the seeds of the war were sown as early as 2004 when Ukrainian presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned when he ran against Russia’s hand-picked man, Yanukovych. That brought about the Orange Revolution. Who poisons opponents and adversaries? Russian political strongmen.

“That ‘smaller and weaker’ was in turn also a bully toward Russian minority who live in Ukraine on territories given them by soviet commies. It didn’t stop them to oppress Russians in Ukraine why then I will feel sorry for them now?’

Those “separatists” started a civil war (with Russian assistance). The Russian “minority” weren’t oppressed; but that is the excuse Russia has historically used to embark on aggressive adventures against its neighbors.

[nickfrost1]

Here’s my argument: Russia invaded a smaller and weaker neighbor for no justifiable reason: Russia wasn’t attacked; Ukraine posed no threat to Russia; the “separatists” in eastern Ukraine were created by Russia (it’s an old playbook from back in the Soviet days, with which Putin was very familiar).===

Ukraine violated 1999 Friendship Treaty neutrality obligation by applying to NATO in 2008. SO she started to pose a threat.

Separatists in eastern Ukraine were mere reaction on Kiev revolt of Mjadan. Supported by West bytheway. SO since it is Russia neiborhood she reacts accordingly. And yea she helped Russians in Ukraine. How you think she might not help Russian compatriots threatened by new regime in Kiev? It is impossible for any power in Russia not to help Russians in Ukraine or else.

Those “separatists” started a civil war (with Russian assistance). The Russian “minority” weren’t oppressed; ===

You totally miss it. The “civil war” started in Odessa where Russian was massacred by burning alive. Before this there was just rally and meetings.

After this Russians just took up to arms to defend themselves. No peaceful solution became possible anymore. This escalation is completely done by Ukrainians.

None was punished for Odessa massacre. But it was a starting point of this civil war turned now to Ukraine-Russia war. But it is just again further escalation of already ongoing thing. So nothing really new.

[nickfrost1]

“Refute what? Your stupid personal attacks? I didn’t fall for a such blame game for a long time already.”

They must have struck home for you to carry on so.===

I know this polemic trick. You blame opponent with some utterly ridiculous blames so he must refute it. But in process you produce another ridiculous blame. And so on and so on. Until he is tired.

[dennisw]

Russia, dropping like flies from Putincides. Over here, dropping is from the vaxxxxxx