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Don’t believe the Jimmy Carter revisionists
JNS ^ | 26 Mar 2023 | Jonathan Tobin

Posted on 03/26/2023 6:15:43 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: napscoordinator

Reagan was older than Crater after his presidency and he didn’t live that long until the onset of alzheimer’s and then death.


21 posted on 03/26/2023 7:13:44 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: DownInFlames

Re8, how Truman avoided war crimes is beyond me. Nuking 2 large Japanese cities and murderng over 100,000 civilians in an instance is beyond pale. I know the japs attached without warning and millions died in the conflagration, but ro nuke 2 cities is beyond reproach.


You need to study some REAL HISTORY.


22 posted on 03/26/2023 7:14:29 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’d rate Lincoln as by far the worst. His war of aggression resulted in more dead Americans than any president before or since. He also acted as a tyrant trampling on the Bill of Rights and he trashed the rest of the constitution usurping all kinds of power for the federal government - stealing powers from the states - which the Founding Fathers never intended the federal government to have.


23 posted on 03/26/2023 7:16:27 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: PeterPrinciple

Obviously, you can’t read. Before going half cocked in your response, I don’t have time nor the inclination to post the entire history of man and the evil he represents in one posting. I’m a great admirer of history with WWII as my primary focus. More machines and weapons of destruction were invented during this timeframe including the development and deployment of nukes.

To date, we are the only country to use a nuke during a time of war. For that alone, Truman should have faced war crimes.


24 posted on 03/26/2023 7:19:11 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: FLT-bird

Or Barack Hussein Obama, for that matter.


25 posted on 03/26/2023 7:19:49 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as.)
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To: DownInFlames

To date, we are the only country to use a nuke during a time of war. For that alone, Truman should have faced war crimes.


Again, another person that wasn’t there and hindsight is 20/20

Read the REAL HISTORY, not the movies.


26 posted on 03/26/2023 7:22:09 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: FLT-bird

I agree 100%, the Civil War could have been avoided.


27 posted on 03/26/2023 7:27:42 AM PDT by slag
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To: Rummyfan

He was hired by Hugo Chavez to bless his election. His Carter Center was not allowed to inspect or verify anything, he was not allowed in the election command center, there was enormous fraud, but he blessed the election on camera within 15 minutes of polls closing. And accused Bush of stealing his election in the process.

Corrupt. He did what he was paid to do.


28 posted on 03/26/2023 7:30:42 AM PDT by marron
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To: euram
Another neo-con deep stater heard from.

Carter had his faults, but unlike 0bama and Biden, he didn’t despise the country and its people that he was elected to lead. Toobin is just PO that Carter didn’t love Israel more than the United States, which is very typical of neo-cons.

Jimmy Carter--champion of White Western European Civilization! Of course he was a pro-Communist disaster, but what's that when compared to standing up to those Evil Israelis who invaded and conquered Rhodesia?

In the White Hall of Fame, Carter ranks right up there with Arafat!

29 posted on 03/26/2023 7:31:10 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: napscoordinator

The Israel-Egypt peace accord was a truly great accomplishment. Nothing like it until Trump brokered a similar Suadi-Israel detente.

Other than that, Jimmy was a very nice guy who didn’t know his way outside a submarine. Monsignor Geno Baroni as secretary of HUD is the best example of interior submarine policy implemented outside the sub. The very essence of Alinsky philosophy is the little powerless against the big powerful. So when the big powerful government implements an Alinsky philosophy it is bound to be an absurd parody.


30 posted on 03/26/2023 7:32:12 AM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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To: DownInFlames

For the millions of baby boomers whose fathers were preparing to hit the beaches in Japan in 1945, I say, thank you Harry. You made the right choice. Many more would have died during an invasion of Japan and they would have been our American fathers.


31 posted on 03/26/2023 7:35:39 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: napscoordinator

Reagan was 77 when he left office and 6 years later was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, and we don’t know what he was doing as an ex-president who had accomplished so much as a man of history.

Carter had never done anything useful and being a showy do-gooder was his stock and trade, he was always portraying his supposed devout Christianity as holier than thou, but there is a reason that Christians respected Reagan’s deep faith and its reflection in his life of service and self-sacrifice and humility and did not accept Carter’s phony yet showy Christian image he had adopted early in his political life.

Picking up that very public hammer is so very typical of Carter’s lifelong image management just like his hand carrying his empty luggage to the helicopters.
Ask the secret service about the two men and which
one was deep and authentic, caring and thoughtful, and which one was shallow, pretentious, and phony.


32 posted on 03/26/2023 7:38:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hiatory:
Carter and HUD Secrtary Msgr Geno Baroni and Baroni’s brand of Alinsky were close long before Carter became president. Their not-for-profits actively campaigned for Carter in both the primaries and finals. I remember how initially Chicago Alinksyites favored Jerry Brown of CA. Baroni stepped in and they and their Catholic and main stream Protestant money flipped overnight to Carter.


33 posted on 03/26/2023 7:41:33 AM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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To: LS

Well phrased. Thank you.


34 posted on 03/26/2023 7:42:52 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: slag

“’Reagan was almost 80 and was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s disease. “”

Reagan was not diagnosed with Alzheimer’s until 1994, and he was around a LOT of doctors.


35 posted on 03/26/2023 7:46:07 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: FLT-bird

[I’d rate Lincoln as by far the worst. His war of aggression resulted in more dead Americans than any president before or since. He also acted as a tyrant trampling on the Bill of Rights and he trashed the rest of the constitution usurping all kinds of power for the federal government - stealing powers from the states - which the Founding Fathers never intended the federal government to have.]


On one hand, Lincoln usurped state powers. On the other, he created a nation out of what were previously more or less a collection of independent states more or less like the EU. If the US hadn’t been a single nation, it’s unclear it could have responded to the twin threats of German or Russian imperial designs as it did in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor. So his legacy is mixed - he unleashed great destruction on his fellow Americans, but in so doing, ensured the creation of a globe-straddling power the likes of which the world has never seen, even at the height of the British empire.


36 posted on 03/26/2023 7:46:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks for refreshing my memory with data I have not heard since Fulton Lewis Jr in 1951.


37 posted on 03/26/2023 7:50:47 AM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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To: Zhang Fei
On one hand, Lincoln usurped state powers. On the other, he created a nation out of what were previously more or less a collection of independent states more or less like the EU. If the US hadn’t been a single nation, it’s unclear it could have responded to the twin threats of German or Russian imperial designs as it did in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor. So his legacy is mixed - he unleashed great destruction on his fellow Americans, but in so doing, ensured the creation of a globe-straddling power the likes of which the world has never seen, even at the height of the British empire.

Without US involvement in WWI, there would have been no WWII. Both sides were exhausted and the technology of the day ensured there would be no dramatic breakthrough on the Western Front. Both sides would have been forced to come to a negotiated settlement. The Hapsburg Empire would not have been destroyed creating an enormous power vacuum in central Europe. Hitler would have been politically impossible.

the US would have gone on being what it had been which was an increasingly prosperous confederation which did not go abroad seeking monsters to slay. A lot more Americans who perished would have lived and had families of their own. The Leviathan in Washington wouldn't have been able to break the chains the Founding Fathers shackled it with for good reason. Lincoln was a bloody tyrant.

38 posted on 03/26/2023 7:52:37 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: DownInFlames
I would argue that the best thing Truman did as president was nuking the Japs. It brought a quick end to the war and saved the lives of tens of thousands of Allied POWs and civilian internees, not to mention hundreds of thousands of Japanese who would have died had we been forced to invade Japan.

I also admire Truman for his decision to confront the Soviets over Iran, Greece, Turkey and Berlin and his decision to build the hydrogen bomb. But in his handling of China and Korea, Soviet penetration of our government, and the domestic economy, Truman came up short.

39 posted on 03/26/2023 8:02:19 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: mjp
Killer Bunny!



d:^)

40 posted on 03/26/2023 8:08:45 AM PDT by apostoli (When the Saxon awakes, continents will BURN!)
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