Posted on 05/19/2023 8:00:51 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
Won’t resolve Russias concern, so only works for ukraine. Takes two sides.
But isn’t Ukraine by intentionally shipping items to NATO to be repaired ALREADY involving NATO and as such making NATO a potential target by NATO’s own approval?
NATO is purposely and intentionally inviting an attack JUST so they can say “SEE SEE we were attacked” giving them just the “excuse” needed to attack Russia. Gulf of Tonkin sound familiar?
At some point the Russians will get sick and tired of NATO having an indirect hand in the conflict and choose to blow one of these repair depots “outside Ukraine” to hell.
Then I hope you don’t mind if a bunch more Russians have to die. Maybe with the F-16’s the US can send some long range missiles so the Ukies can start doing to Moscow what your people have been doing to Ukraine.
Republicans should impeach Biteme for his comment about the bribe to Ukraine back in 15 regarding either getting rid of the prosecutor or no money. Claim that had something to do with this situation.
what a waste.
“Republicans should impeach Biteme”
Which would be meaningless posturing without Senate support. As much as I’d love to see Biden impeached it would be more productive to focus on re-electing President Trump. An impeachment that can’t succeed would be a distraction.
Megan, the Russians are not my people.
Nor are the globohomopedos of the west.
Nor are the russians doing all the dying.
The dying needs to stop.
Very sad and I hope trump gets back to end this idiocy.
Like the US got sick and tired of the Pakistani ISI supporting and supplying the Taliban. Therefore the US eventually declared war on Pakistan. Oh wait, I might have got that wrong.
Ah, then this - The Soviets got sick and tired of the US supplying the mujahedeen in Afghanistan via Pakistan, therefore the Soviets attacked Pakistan. Oh wait, I might have got that wrong.
Ah, it must be this - the US got sick and tired of the Soviets supplying North Vietnam. So the USN started sinking Soviet freighters approaching Haiphong harbor. Oh wait, I might have got that wrong.
Etc.
Its a cost-benefit calculation. Or a balance of terror if you like.
“Megan, the Russians are not my people.”
Then stop cheerleading for them as if you are.
As a neo isolationist you arjust blowing smoke and actually use the word Globalist
Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev
Following a major strike on the Ukrainian capital Kiev in May 16, which involved use of multiple missile classes including deployment of Kinzhal ballistic missiles against Ukraine’s Patriot air defence systems, new information regarding the strike has continued to emerge. With Western sources having confirmed that a Patriot system was taken out of action, the Russian Defence Ministry on May 18 reported: "According to verified information, as a result of a strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kiev a multifunctional radar station, as well as five launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by the United States were hit and completely destroyed on May 16, 2023.” It was previously only confirmed that the radar station, which provides command and control for each Patriot unit, was destroyed. Ukraine received two units of Patriots from mid April, with the first delivered less than a month before the recent strike. The United States repeatedly proved reluctant to provide the assets or to allow its European allies to do so, not only because this would deplete the relatively limited arsenals available to the U.S. Military and its allies, but also because of their extreme cost and the significant reputational damage which their destruction in combat could cause. The system’s failure was widely predicted in light of its highly modest combat record against much simpler missiles than those in Russia’s arsenal.
Three primary factors thought to have influenced Washington to eventually approve transfers of Patriots to Ukraine included sustained pressure from European allies, the danger of Ukrainian population centres becoming unliveable due to Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, and the very serious depletion of Ukraine’s existing air defence network built around Soviet S-300 and BuK systems which the country inherited in considerable quantities in 1991. Patriots are by far the most costly military assets Ukraine has in service, and their delivered has absorbed a high portion of the funds allocated to aiding the Ukrainian war effort - an investment which it was long argued by multiple analysts would be far from cost effectively. The Patriots were assigned to protect the capital following major Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, with their much lower mobility and more limited arcs of fire than even Soviet era variants of the S-300 system limiting their suitability for use near the frontlines in Eastern Ukraine. The Patriot system targeted reportedly fired 32 interceptors at the Kinzhal ballistic missiles that targeted it, all of which failed, with this salvo alone having cost approximately $96 million.
Kremlin sent pilots & their airplanes to Korea and Vietnam. Anything that happens now would be less than what has already happened.
No bert. You still sound vaxxed.
I'm not a neo anything. The US has interests, but not in Ukraine.
And sadly, my country has taken the leading position on promoting perversity around the globe.
It is an alliance of the western perversity promoting neocons who have pushed for war in Ukraine, with Zelensky's cooperation. I am against their evil agenda.
Ukraine used Patriots missiles to wipe the sky of an entire Russian attack last week. 4 Russian aircraft and their pilots/crew vaporized in a couple minutes. Same will happen with F-16 and that is why the Kremlin’s fellow travelers are squealing like stuck pigs now.
Stop you will cause collective orgasms from the FR warcons with such wild talk! They dream of giving their little George Washington jr all the weaponry in the US arsenal if that’s what it takes to start WWIII.
These F16’s will get flamed fairly quickly and the warcons and deep state will want even more advanced fighters-bought and paid for by US taxpayers of course to be given to Georgie Jr. Got to have a war going 24/7/52, doesn’t matter if it hurts or helps the US, gotta have it baby!
The sooner countries send F-16’s to Ukraine, the sooner they will be shot down by the Russians.
NATO is being destroyed by its own foolishness in depleting its weapons to assist Ukraine in a war Ukraine cannot win.
NATO was designed and chartered as a DEFENSIVE alliance against the Soviet Union which no longer exists.
NATO has long ago lost its purpose and should have been dismantled decades ago.
NATO has been steadily growing in size to promote its OFFENSIVE use of weapons against Russia at the insistence of warmongers in Washington DC.
Russia has not attacked any NATO country which is a major point overlooked by all the Western warmongers.
In your posts you cheerlead for Russia and denigrate Ukraine and the USA all the same as if you were cheering for the Dodgers and denigrating the Yankees and the Diamondbacks.
You cheerlead for team Russia. Or “Ruzzia” as you apparently prefer to call it.
not for the FR division of the Nudge Brigade! There is only one side! War is Peace! Ignorance is Strength!
“...the Soviet Union which no longer exists.”
Yet many of your comrades right here on FR would disagree with you because them claim a continuity from Imperial Russia to the Soviet Union to the Russian Federation. In short, the claim is made that anything that was once held by Imperial Russia or the Soviet Union then belongs to the Russian Federation because they are the same country but using different names.
Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union may have once controlled both Crimea and Ukraine but the currently composed Russian Federation never had any such control and it actually took steps to legally disavow any such claims.
So there you have it. Either the Russian Federation is simply a rebranded Soviet Union or it isn’t and therefore has no claim to any Ukrainian territory.
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