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Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History
NY Times ^

Posted on 06/05/2023 7:43:35 AM PDT by navysealdad

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To: navysealdad

Ask Mark Levin what he thinks of the Nazi New York Times. The paper is a Nazi sympathizers’ rag. Once a Nazi, always a Nazi. The paper wants you to not believe Putin about the Ukrainian Natzis or your eyes with the visible Ukrainian uniform patches. How could Soros and Zelinski be Nazi sympathizers as Jews? The answer is easy, Soros and Zelinski have surrendered their souls long ago to the Devil so they don’t give a damn about humanity.


21 posted on 06/05/2023 8:11:40 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: wardaddy
Ukraine and Eastern Europe in general is pretty bloody damn place honestly

Actually, most of the world, throughout most of history, has been pretty bloody.

Those in the West post-World War Two have grown up with an unrealistic picture of the world. This has been one of those rare places and moments of relative peace and prosperity.

But woke youth think it's the norm. That they can behave as irresponsibly as they like, and their world will remain safe, prosperous, and secure.

22 posted on 06/05/2023 8:14:58 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
Actually, most of the world, throughout most of history, has been pretty bloody. Those in the West post-World War Two have grown up with an unrealistic picture of the world. This has been one of those rare places and moments of relative peace and prosperity. But woke youth think it's the norm. That they can behave as irresponsibly as they like, and their world will remain safe, prosperous, and secure.

When you have too much time on your hands, and are too fat, dumb and happy, you have to find ways to amuse yourself. That's why you're seeing all this crazy gender-bending stuff. It keeps people amused.

But the "rude awakening" is coming.

23 posted on 06/05/2023 8:16:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: navysealdad

Because the PATCHES, and FLAGS, and angular imagery are what MAKE Nazi’s.


24 posted on 06/05/2023 8:19:56 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Angelino97
Good perspective.

BTW, the Soviet hammer and sickle battle flag is common among russian units.

In the end, the commies have had a much longer reign and slaughtered far more people.

25 posted on 06/05/2023 8:32:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: wardaddy

Then there was Wołyn, and the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Poles by the UPA.


26 posted on 06/05/2023 8:33:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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27 posted on 06/05/2023 8:35:13 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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SS Officer #2:
I really can’t think of anything worse as a symbol than a skull.

SS Officer #1:
A rat’s anus?

SS Officer #2:
Yes, and if we were fighting an army matching under the banner of a rat’s anus I’d probably be a lot less worried, Hans.


28 posted on 06/05/2023 8:37:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Angelino97

There is a Golden Rule and it operates in reverse as well.


29 posted on 06/05/2023 8:38:33 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

He who has the gold makes the rules.


30 posted on 06/05/2023 8:39:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: navysealdad

Same article via Yahoo with no paywall

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nazi-symbols-ukraine-front-lines-114825778.html


31 posted on 06/05/2023 8:39:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Smellin Salt

Durante won the 1932 Pulitzer Prize for helping Stalin deny the holodomor.

Not much of a difference between Nationally Socialist and communist besides technicalities of ownership.


32 posted on 06/05/2023 8:44:08 AM PDT by zek157
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Not much of a difference between Nationally Socialist and communist besides technicalities of ownership.

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WW2 basically boils down to an existential clash between two socialist cults of personality.


33 posted on 06/05/2023 8:46:36 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: navysealdad

It’s a concerted, western media whitewash because Ukraine needs its Nazis. They cannot survive without them.

So not even a word of condemnation.


34 posted on 06/05/2023 8:47:22 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: navysealdad

But the National Socialist German Workers Party was a WILD EYED RADICAL LEFT WING ORGANIZATION.


35 posted on 06/05/2023 8:52:50 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: navysealdad

What “symbols”? The swastica? Why don’t they say it?

It is as if they don’t want to even write or say it. That is weirder than anything else, IMO.


36 posted on 06/05/2023 8:53:53 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: eyeamok; navysealdad

I am reading (listening) again to William Shirer’s excellent book “The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich”.

I would challenge ANYONE to read this book and present it, as Leftists often do, as an analogy of the “right” trying to obtain and hold power.

Listening to it, it is 100% the tactics of the Left, right up to and including street muscle (Antifa and BLM instead of the SA in early Nazi Germany) the disregard of law, fixing of elections, open violence and threats, regulatory capture, dual standards of justice, etc.


37 posted on 06/05/2023 9:05:20 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: iontheball
How could Soros and Zelinski be Nazi sympathizers as Jews?
With Soros, it was easy. There were real Nazis around to collaborate with. And it's beyond question that the Ministry official he'd been sent to live with was responsible for inventorying confiscated Jewish property, and that Soros accompanied him on at least one excursion.

Though given that he was only 14 or 15, it's not clear how much personal blame can be accounted to him.

Zelinski is another matter. There are no more Nazis. Not even the organizations that claim to be Nazis are Nazis, anymore.

And the term has a new definition. It's become a generic slur with no meaning other than someone the left doesn't like.

Today, it's a content-free accusation. Anyone can be a Nazi. And everyone is, except for committed leftists, and they only until they've been trotskyified, after which they're nazis, too.

38 posted on 06/05/2023 9:09:24 AM PDT by jdege
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To: navysealdad

Yet the rUSSRians have no qualms about using the Nazi wolfsangel rune symbol (”Z”) on their vehicles.

Note that the letter ‘Z’ does not occur in Cyrillic. The rUSSRians are therefore using the rune symbol on their vehicles.


39 posted on 06/05/2023 9:16:58 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: rlmorel

In this case, they mean symbols, there are different symbols being discussed.


40 posted on 06/05/2023 10:05:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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