Posted on 06/17/2023 10:36:31 AM PDT by spirited irish
Has Jon Tester commented on this? Will he represent his constituents in Montana or the big gov federal agencies who trample on the rights of those who exercise their 2nd Amendment rights? Rhetorical question. Tester knows where his bread is buttered and who is in a position to make his life miserable if he doesn’t support the anti-constitutional federal leviathan.
The IRS is the new IRA.
so why were the 4473s pulled if this was an irs operation
doesnt make sense
The IRS is the new Gestapo
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
If gov’t can go after Trump as they have without intrepidation, they can go after anyone.
But, those forms already belong to the BATF. Why would they feel compelled to take them at gunpoint?
Exactly....zero sense.
I have a friend that was a supervisor in a Narcotics unit a long time ago. The IRS approached the department and requested help, possibly in the same way the ATF was helping(?), and the department went down the ladder...SWAT, Fugitive Unit, Narcotics. IRS ended up with a Narcotics team. The one my friend supervised.
As the lead agency, the IRS was up front. My friend said it was a train wreck. Once secured, he and his team left the location.
One thing that folks need to understand is, the ATF makes very few arrests regarding violations of “gun laws” other than bad guys having stolen guns or felons being in possession of them. Very few cases are made against gun dealers and law abiding guns owners. Emphasis on “law abiding”. There just simply isn’t that much work for them.
And, contrary to what Biden, the Queen and the Left would have folks believe, existing gun laws actually work. Kelly tried and was denied. That chick VanZeller and her husband went to a gun show to show the world how easy it was and was denied. Fact is, and I can’t give a number other than over 99%(my opinion), of FFLs operate legally and then some, in an attempt to be overly cautious.
So.....in order for the IRS to do what they did, they needed a warrant. The affidavit should prove to be interesting as the ATF form has nothing financial on it.
Which, for me, begs the question: Did the ATF cover up something they wanted and used the IRS agents in an attempt to cover it all up?
These people have been acting above the law for quite some time. Pre-Biden, but it has gone into overdrive under Biden. This is just a more aggressive action than the two clowns walking up on the guy wanting his triggers and then threatening him if he didn’t “voluntarily” give them the triggers. Something they shouldn’t even know he purchased.
My guess is the IRS suspects the store owner of underreporting his sales income. They want the 4473’s to get a list of customers so they can use an administrative summons on each customer to see how much they spent in the store. Problem is, the 4473 will only identify customers who bought guns, not those who only bought ammo or accessories. The 4473 will only get them about 80% of what they’re looking for.
The fact armed IRS agents were used tells me this is a criminal investigation. The IRS usually requires more than a “hunch” someone isn’t paying their “fair share” of taxes. My experience with the IRS has shown the Special Agents are notoriously lazy, and don’t accept cases unless most of the documentary work has already been done by someone else, like a Revenue Agent or a Revenue Officer.
Remember. When you “back the blue” no tyranny can thrive without well armed, well funded, well disciplined, and well motivated police who will gladly kill you when ordered to by the government.
Our Sheriff would not allow this……he’s on our side
“Unfortunately we need just one of these raids to go bad. Then everyone up the chain can be brought to justice. Everyone. From the goon level to the IRS director, ATF director. How hard is it to serve a civil summons or a criminal warrant if needed without the terror show.”
You should look up “Waco” and “Ruby Ridge” to see how much accountability there would be if one “goes bad”.
Proof of sales and income perhaps.
Excellent advice keep it up everyone needs more wisdom and knowledge.
Before America had police forces the position of sheriff was created to act as law enforcement. The sheriff is the most powerful politician in a county. Because the sheriff has, essentially, his own army the governors were gifted with the state police. (Sometimes this agency is called the highway patrol because state police became associated with the Nazis.) This was both to handle statewide crime and to prevent a sheriff from playing political shenanigans by arresting the governor. The governor has very little control over any sheriff. He can request this-or-that, but they don’t report to the governor.
How the sheriff reacts to a federal agency depends on a lot. For one thing, the feds can severely affect the sheriff’s funding, his participation in federal equipment giveaways, training and similar money related items. It’s unlikely that a sheriff will interfere with a federal operation because the feds have a dozen ways to make life difficult if not really painful for the sheriff.
The interesting thing here is all of those records are already the property of the FBI as every gun sale was approved. Why did the IRS simply not go to the FBI and make a records request? Also, why does the IRS have, essentially, a SWAT group when they can rely on ATF/FBI etc.? Something is very wrong here.
Bttt.
5.56mm
Over $919,000 per agent.
They have granted every spending bill and CR. They are the problem.
Tracking inventory correctly can prove unreported sales.
You bought 50 of something-—
Show sales for 20 items——
Only have 10 left on shelf-—
WHERE DID 20 UNITS GO???
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