The Sub Story is an Example of Apolitical Fake News

Front Page Magazine ^ | June 24 2023 | Daniel Greenfield

[caww]

I agree it was likely to not reveal what we have.

When Putin went into Crimea and cut off Ukraines communications our Military did not realize how advanced Putins ability could go in disrupting communications - now they do.

[GingisK]

One of those puppies got thrown into the swimming pool where I went to college. It activated, righted itself, dispensed shark repellent, popped up antennas and started transmitting. The Coast Guard actually sent a crew to investigate ... Murray, Kentucky.

[mowowie]

Bayliner?

[MD Expat in PA]

As I understand, the Navy didn’t hear the sound that implied an implosion in the general area of where the Ocean Gate was last communicated with in real time. It wasn’t until after the Ocean Gate was reported missing that the Navy went back over their recordings. FWIW, there are a lot of sounds in the ocean, some natural, some manmade but not necessarily nefarious or indicating an implosion.

While the sound picked up was consistent with what would sound like an implosion, it wasn’t 100% conclusive, “not definitive” per a US Navy spokesperson.

Sounds travel great distances underwater and IIUC, without triangulation, can’t be pinpointed with a 100% degree of certainty and it takes a while to do this. The US Navy thought the sound came from the general area where the sub was supposed to be, but again, couldn’t say with a 100% degree of certainty, at least not right away.

And the sound, while consistent with an implosion, could have also been any number of other things including but not limited to seismic activity or deep-sea drilling operations. Just as the banging sounds turned out not to be from the doomed sub.

So, what should have happened on Sunday once the US Navy found the sound detected in their recordings and reported this to the Coast Guard? Call off all search and rescue efforts, declare all on board dead and call it a day?

What if the sound that sounded like an implosion wasn’t, was misinterpreted and the Ocean Gate was later found midway to the Titanic or bobbing on the surface fully intact but having run out of oxygen?

I would take an educated guess that people like Greenfield and the conspiracy theorists who claim this was some sort of coordinated diversion would still be complaining but for different reasons.

[Jaysin]

yes, the order for the withdrawl may have been given by Biden’s handlers in April, but the actual withdrawal where the 13 US servicemen were killed was in very late August.

the media conveniently got distracted with Gabby to deflect Biden’s responsibility for the disaster

trust me bro, if Gabby had been a known conservative, no one other then her loved ones would know her name today. (unless of course her killer was even more conservative)

if heaven forbid, Dexter LeQuan Jackson decided to kill you for his gang initiation, then it would be a quick news report locally before forgotten. If YOU were to kill Dexter in self-defense though, you’d be sharing a cell with Derrick Chauvin!

[Wilhelm Tell]

Oh, I didn’t know it was a “Yugo” of the boat world, lol. It just didn’t appear to be held together by duct tape with lights from WalMart, unlike the vessel they lost.

[Nifster]

You over think a lot. Watch cartoons. Easily as entertaining and a whole lot stressful

[BerryDingle]

Channon Gail Christian, aged 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom Jr., aged 23, were from Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. They were kidnapped on the evening of January 6, 2007, when Christian's vehicle was carjacked. The couple were taken to a rental house. Both of them were raped, tortured, and murdered (Newsome's body was chopped up, and the parts were set on fire). Four black males and one black female were arrested, charged, and convicted in the case. In 2007, a grand jury indicted Letalvis Darnell Cobbins, Lemaricus Devall Davidson, George Geovonni Thomas, and Vanessa Lynn Coleman on counts of kidnapping, robbery, rape, and murder. Also in 2007, Eric DeWayne Boyd was indicted by a federal grand jury of being an accessory to a carjacking, resulting in serious bodily injury to another person and misprision of a felony. In 2018, Boyd was indicted on state-level charges of kidnapping, robbery, rape, and murder.

Controversy arose due to differing interpretations regarding the media's coverage of the murders. Many people believed that the crimes were ignored because the victims were white while the perpetrators were black. Others, including journalists, disagreed with this assertion.

[linMcHlp]

For the record, all boats require attention and maintenance.

The OceanGate boat appears to be a Bayliner 2859

See Bayliner Owners Club

https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/forum/bayliner-models/cruisers/603671-what-to-look-for-in-buying-a-2859

Comments, there [EXCERPTS]:

"Sterndrive maintenance, potential fuel tank replacement and potential transom core issues. Have it surveyed and do a good long sea trial with [Wide Open Throttle "WOT"] testing etc."

"Along with the structural issues check for black stains around windows. They are prone to leaking."

"We looked at 2 today and both had issues with black mold from leaks around windows."

[Re Black Stains] "It seems as though when they installed the monkey fur at the factory, they let it lay outside of the window opening and so long as it wasn't visible outside of the window frames, they applied sealant on the window frame and pressed the window into place. Problem being that the monkey fur could still get wet, and worked like a wick, drawing the water inside and allowing the gremlins in the water to grow and stain everything. I can tell you from experience that it is a bearcat of a job to remove the windows to reseal them."

"Check for corrosion on the inside gimbal housing plate around steering fork,"

"Aluminum tanks on any brand boat need to inspected yearly after about 10 years."

"During your [marine] survey, be sure to have the fuel tank pressure tested for leaks. If you need to replace the tank it is a major task, as you will need to remove the engine and cut out the floor in the mid-birth. Also check the steering seal for any leaks, and this will be visible inside the engine room where the steering shaft exits the transom."

Included in the photo, are objects that are probably test cylinders, for testing exposure to the elements. The big diam. test cylinder, at a glance, appears to be made of the Carbon Fibre and epoxy composition.

[scrabblehack]

Is this the Polar Princess (the ship that launched the Titan), or is this the Titan?

[golux]

Is this the Polar Princess (the ship that launched the Titan), or is this the Titan?

This is neither the Polar Princess nor the hubristically-named Titan, but vessels of the Bayliner marque are designed to function as submersibles, thereby as the name implies to line bays, oceans, etc.

[golux]

(above.)

[bitt]

The Navy had detected an explosion around the time the sub lost contact.

Who told the Navy not to report their evidence?

[Candor7]

I feel so bad having lent all of my AR-15s to them for the trip to the Titanic, along with all of my guns.......

[CJ Wolf]

The dreaded Bayliner! Unggggh!