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Gold Back Currency Reality
Armstrong Economics ^ | 8 June 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 07/08/2023 2:50:53 PM PDT by delta7

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To: DesertRhino
The point is that a government could never create more money without holding the commensurate amount of gold.

Have you conflated currency with money?
...a government could never create more gold backed currency without holding the commensurate amount of gold
A government need not concern itself with reserves if it uses currency instead of actual coins.

Actual money, Constitutional money, IS gold and silver, nothing else. Coinage Act of April 2, 1792

SEC. 11. And be it further enacted, That the proportional value of gold to silver in all coins which shall by law be current as money within the United States, shall be as fifteen to one, according to quantity in weight, of pure gold or pure silver; that is to say, every fifteen pounds weight of pure silver shall be of equal value in all payments, with one pound weight of pure gold, and so in proportion as to any greater or less quantities of the respective medals. Paper instruments, even when backed by gold, is NOT money.

We have a system, we just need to get back to it and get out of the debt slavery we are in.

What is it about people having actual possession of gold and silver coins that horrifies the current day power brokers in this world so much?

That's a question we should all ask ourselves.

21 posted on 07/08/2023 9:01:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: old curmudgeon
The need for gold as a backup for money...

See 21. Since actual money IS gold and silver coin what is there to back up?

22 posted on 07/08/2023 9:16:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: delta7

Is China going to start demanding we pay them for all the trillions in imports, with gold? (Indirectly)

If so, this could COMPLETELY change our entire trade policy, immediately.

One month…


23 posted on 07/09/2023 12:15:00 AM PDT by cba123 (Tôi là người Mỹ. Hiện tôi đang ở Việt Nam)
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To: cba123

No idea, but the Brics announced they will start a gold backed system in their next summit in August. Do be aware Moscow announced they are starting the Moscow International Gold trading to work with China’s Shanghai gold market.

The best part “ to expose the corrupted US COMEX and Londons LMBA markets”……it will be a glorious day when the US is exposed as having little gold left…..we already know the LMBA is scrapping the bottom.

Prepare accordingly.


24 posted on 07/09/2023 5:41:34 AM PDT by delta7
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To: DesertRhino

.Gov managed to spend a fortune of money they did not have in WWII.

Gold did not stop them.

History is your friend.


25 posted on 07/09/2023 5:45:36 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: discostu

To back a multi quadrillion dollar global economy it would take a LOT of gold.
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You mistakenly assume there will not be a global financial crisis. The amount of unpayable debt the US and EU ( the West) holds is the largest on the planet….

I do believe the US’s “ advertised” gold holdings are a fraction of that….they will be exposed, but we shall see.


26 posted on 07/09/2023 5:48:41 AM PDT by delta7
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No. It doesn’t matter if there’s a crisis. There will still be a multi quadrillion dollar global economy.

Here’s the basic fact gold backed addicts refuse to acknowledge:
90% of the economy doesn’t even involve cash anymore. The economy is all 1s and 0s moving around with nothing printed, and therefore nothing backable, involved. We CANNOT back 1s and 0s that we have no control over. You can print backed money because you can control how much money you print. You can’t back money that just poofs into existence, mostly without government control. I get paid by bits landing in my bank account, my bank loans out 90% of that with bits, and that buys something with bits, and those bits land in another bank, and more bits and more bits and more bits.

The fact is once fractional banking was invented backed currency became a LIE. And once fractional banking become computerized it became a DAMNED LIE. And people wanting to go back to the LIE are dumb.


27 posted on 07/09/2023 6:48:43 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: old curmudgeon

But it doesn’t. Because how much money the government prints doesn’t matter. We have fractional banking, and it’s computerized. The government doesn’t even make most of the money in the economy anymore. Gold reserve was a lie. Wanting to go back to a lie is dumb.


28 posted on 07/09/2023 6:50:11 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: DesertRhino

No. You have to lose ALL OF IT. Forget the gold. Gold backing is a fiction anyway. The real determination of money is the Big Mac Index. You want to know what money, any money, anywhere, any time, is worth. Look it up on the Big Mac Index. McDonald’s puts a lot of work into making sure a Big Mac costs a certain amount of the average labor of a person in the region.

And you’ll never prevent inflation or the welfare state. We were gold backed during the depression. It prevent $#%^ then and wouldn’t now.


29 posted on 07/09/2023 6:53:29 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

The author is illiterate, yet, many will think the idiot is a genius.


30 posted on 07/09/2023 7:00:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: discostu

“We were gold backed during the depression. It prevent $#%^ then and wouldn’t now.”

Actually, it did prevent a depression. The Great Depression was not caused by inflation, but by socialist programs FDR and his fellow socialists created. Even the stock market corrected quickly, within days, but the socialist programs were meant to create a dependent class of poverty stricken people.

Don’t blame gold for the depression, it did its job just fine.


31 posted on 07/09/2023 7:04:04 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: discostu

“We CANNOT back 1s and 0s that we have no control over.”

Actually, you can, but you’re just too ignorant of that system to understand it.


32 posted on 07/09/2023 7:05:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: discostu

“Gold reserve was a lie.”

A lie that worked so well for over a hundred years the bankers wanted it dead.


33 posted on 07/09/2023 7:06:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: discostu

“McDonald’s puts a lot of work into making sure a Big Mac costs a certain amount of the average labor of a person in the region.”

Really? McDonalds should set the value of our currency?? Wow, you really do not understand the purpose of currency.


34 posted on 07/09/2023 7:07:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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No. McDonald’s KNOWS the value of currency. Nobody sets the value. The value happens as people spend money and prices get set. Anybody who thinks someone sets the value of currency doesn’t understand how currency works.


35 posted on 07/09/2023 7:18:16 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CodeToad

It didn’t work well at all. Look at all the economic turmoil we had over those centuries. Or even when currency was gold. Plenty of crashes and depressions during that time.


36 posted on 07/09/2023 7:19:31 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CodeToad

No you can’t. Because we don’t even know where they are much less how many of them there are, or how they relate to our gold reserves. And your need to throw insults shows you know I’m right.


37 posted on 07/09/2023 7:20:30 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CodeToad

I didn’t blame gold for it, I said gold didn’t prevent it. And it didn’t. And FDR wasn’t even in office until the Depression had been going on 3 1/2 years. Now I will agree his policies made it drastically worse and longer. But you can’t blame him for it starting. And just because the market “corrected” doesn’t mean the damage to the general economy had been repaired. That market crash took the guts out of the global economy. Which is why it was still going on for FDR to make worse.


38 posted on 07/09/2023 7:24:06 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Maybe the author is referring to these: https://www.goldback.com/ ;-)


39 posted on 07/09/2023 7:25:25 AM PDT by Drago
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To: discostu

But it doesn’t. Because how much money the government prints doesn’t matter


You actually said that?

You don’t have any idea why we have inflation, why it ruined Venezuela and why we are headed for the same conditions.

That makes discussing the value of a sound currency very difficult.


40 posted on 07/09/2023 7:25:53 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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