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Tremors Abound as Godzilla Trump Crushes GOP Field in First New York Times Poll of 2024 Campaign Season
The Last Refuge ^ | July 31, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 07/31/2023 6:29:19 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: ckilmer
Speaking of Michigan...

BREAKING: Forensic Study Into 2020 Detroit, Michigan Election Finds Up to 34,000 Illegal Ballots – And Additional Warnings from Detroit Clerks that THOUSANDS of Absentee Paper Was Different than Normal Ballots

Swings states, my arse.

41 posted on 08/01/2023 4:39:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: spincaster

Don’t be too sure Philly and Pburgh stole it.

If enough ‘Rats were still voting that way, Deep State wouldn’t need to steal PA’s elections.


42 posted on 08/01/2023 4:40:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: backpacker_c; Golden Eagle

Thank you, backpacker, for telling the truth.

I knew there was more to the story.

President Donald J Trump WOULD NOT DO SUCH A “democrat” THING.


43 posted on 08/01/2023 6:14:51 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: SoConPubbie

Looks like Hollywood Squares. Where’s Soupy Sales and Charley?


44 posted on 08/01/2023 7:16:05 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: TexasGator
Even Freepers laughed at The Conservative Treehouse. Is that why they changed their name?

No name change. The Conservative Treehouse has always also called itself "The Last Refuge." (see here)

I read the site every day, the best analysis and data you'll see anywhere. If you're laughing at it, you're missing out on great content.

45 posted on 08/01/2023 7:49:06 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Hoboto
“With Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Virginia in the mix, I doubt it. All of those States went Blue in 2020. The only States I see going Red in 2024 are Georgia and Virginia. The other States remain unchanged and remain blue. And he's still short.“

Everyone thinks The Dems won't steal the 2024 election no matter which Republican wins the Primary, unless of course that Republican is DC approved. The 2020 Steal was so obvious, so in your face without any accountability that it will happen again.

46 posted on 08/01/2023 8:24:42 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Golden Eagle
From Charlie Kirk:

The newly released New York Times/Siena Poll should confirm what many of us have suspected for months now: The GOP primary is over.

I like Governor DeSantis and have tremendous respect for him as a man and as a governor. I consider him a friend and I believe he's America’s greatest governor. As such I have refused to get in the mud and attack him. He is a great American and I want him to remain a dominant political player for years/decades to come. But his campaign has failed to gain traction.

Now is the time for conservatives to unite and defeat the Democrats and their machine in 2024.

Yes, Trump will be facing 4-5 indictments. But the American people see through them as the political witch hunt that they are. They recognize that the intel agencies and the federal leviathan has been weaponized to eliminate their number 1 threat.

But, our greatest challenge ahead of 2024 is the $ billions that will be spent on ballot harvesting, negative ads, and lawsuits by a well-funded and motivated left. They will outperform polling in key districts because they are investing resources to get out low-propensity voters who otherwise couldn't be bothered. Will the GOP do the same?

We simply cannot afford to waste $1.5 billion on a pointless massacre of a primary. We will not have enough left over to properly invest in ballot chasing in key states—investments that must be made NOW.

We must unite.

47 posted on 08/01/2023 8:25:51 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Golden Eagle

Yet DeSantis is blowing off everyone who voted for him for Governor...


48 posted on 08/01/2023 9:46:57 AM PDT by Boardwalk (Keep the Faith)
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To: SoConPubbie

“President Trump leads with 54%, followed by a ridiculously distant Ron DeSantis at 17%”

The author of this article just had to write “ridiculously distant” to describe DeSantis’s 17%, when just plain “distant” would be perfectly accurate. By claiming that DeSantis was “ridiculously distant”, the author reveals himself as a tiresome partisan, and someone I really don’t care to read, just as I don’t care to read the Democratic propaganda media because I find their partisanship distasteful, and frankly I feel the same of some of the pro-Trump crowd as well, who seem to feel offended that Governor DeSantis dare run against their hero. This is not to cast stones at President Trump, who I would vote for a 3rd time.


49 posted on 08/01/2023 10:39:48 AM PDT by rod5591
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To: SoConPubbie
What's the plan for Trump to win the general? He got it stolen last time. Nothing is going to change there. So there needs to be a massive swing in Biden voters to Trump voters to override the steal.

What's the plan to get suburban white women to vote for Trump? They are the ones that cost the election last time.

I want to win. And nominating Trump is not going to win the 24 election. And like it or not, the Trump that we like, turns off the electorate (suburban white women) that are going to swing this election.

And if you think I'm full of crap, what's the plan? How can Trump flip voters/fraud/states?

50 posted on 08/01/2023 10:51:22 AM PDT by Pappy Smear
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To: mewzilla

Swings states, my arse.
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I don’t disagree with you.

Those states are swing states because the democrats control the voting process there. republicans just don’t get it.


51 posted on 08/01/2023 11:08:20 AM PDT by ckilmer (ui)
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52 posted on 08/01/2023 12:10:36 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Golden Eagle
"Only considering Donald Trump:52%

Considering other candidates: 46%"

ALL the "other" candidates, bEagle, and in fact, if you add up all non-Trump minus DeSantis, that percentage is larger than Ron has ever attained. Furthermore, as the article flatly states, DeSantis is losing second to "I Don't Know".

This isn't a joke: Ron is losing, and losing badly, and his time is up.

You would need, at this point, to pull a Biden primary inside job and convince all non-Trump to not only get out now, but throw their support to Ron, and even then -- and only then -- the primary race would only be competitive and not a sure thing.

Pardon me while I clear my throat....

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53 posted on 08/01/2023 12:19:47 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: SoConPubbie; All

“Mr. Trump held decisive advantages across almost every demographic group and region and in every ideological wing of the party, the survey found, as Republican voters waved away concerns about his escalating legal jeopardy. He led by wide margins among men and women, younger and older voters, moderates and conservatives, those who went to college and those who didn’t, and in cities, suburbs and rural areas.” ..... the majority of Republican/Conservative voters in Georgia.

NOW.....

However, if you identify the small coalition of Ron DeSantis supporters from his highest-ranking demo in each category, what you discover is that Ron DeSantis’ most likely voters are: 30- to 44-year-old, rich white men with college degrees who live in the suburbs of the South.

DeSantis identifies with a very specific tribe of selfie-taking beta males, who wear pink clothing and eat crustless triangle cucumber sandwiches at the country club. Or put another way, it’s literally Ron DeSantis himself and his supportive crew of assembled Sea Island billionaires.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/election-integrity/2023/07/30/breaking-closed-door-meetings-held-between-desantis-georgia-leadership-and-kemp-immediately-following-legislative-session/

And who are the only ones that support Kemp and all the damage he’s doing to the state?
- 30- to 44-year-old, rich white men with college degrees who live in the suburbs
- beta males, who wear pink clothing and eat crustless triangle cucumber sandwiches at the country club.
- his supportive crew of assembled Sea Island billionaires

Don’t put anything past Kemp and Raffensberger to do what they can to ensure that DeSantis has a good showing in Georgia. I can’t speak for some of the few remaining ‘Republican’ suburban areas, as most of the old ones have been flipped completely BLUE due to illegal aliens and NE liberal-migrants, but I challenge you to find a sign or bumper sticker for DeSantis anywhere else in Georgia. Those primary results are going to be real interesting. And just might cause some folks to wonder how Kemp and Raffensberger won by so much in their primary’s.


54 posted on 08/01/2023 12:35:44 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123
Power of incumbency. Period.

The same way Kemp picked Casey Cagle's pocket in 2018 (Cagle won the primary and lost the runoff), those Perdue voters came home to Kemp in November (minus the handful of GA Freepers).

This is backed up by political history for an incumbent governor to hold this much sway over a rematch candidate, one as bad as Mizz Butterworth.

A new [non-fat] Democrat face would have had a better chance, in a non-presidential election year. Same for Florida, Crist was a lame retread.

The Democrats use their losers-out-of-the-gate, their no-hopers like Aunt Jemima and Toe-Tapping Charlie to launder money: to campaign whores, to the #MSM corps, relatives, and rake foreign donations and dark money straight into off-shore accounts (SBF, oy gevalt, please call the white courtesy phone).

Case in point: Amy "Baby Eater" McGrath lost -20 to Miotch, but the Democrats PACs washed 90 MILLION through her losing campaign, and not even half of that was cable and advertising, but bogus 'consultancies'.

55 posted on 08/01/2023 2:17:41 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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