To the premise that the clerks went too far, I say B. S.! The poor, mentally-ill thief got the ass-whuppin’ he deserved!
And thieves have a legal option to not steal.
One consequence of not exercising that option should be an ass whooping, which is something their fathers obviously forgot to do. Amount other things, like not running around siring bastard children all over the place.
Well, Stealing is illegal, beating is illegal, what difference does it make, we are not enforcing rules these days.
According to police, an employee at the 7-Eleven on Center Street, across the street from the Stockton Police Department headquarters, called officers at 3:41 a.m. on July 28 to report a suspect who went behind the counter and threatened to shoot the victim if he intervened.
According to police, the man got away with several packs of cigarettes and other items that he placed in a large garbage bag before leaving.
Less than 24 hours later, on July 29 at 12:27 a.m., the employee called police again to report that the same suspect entered the store and demanded money while simulating having a handgun.
The employee didn't comply and the suspect grabbed food items and put them in a garbage bag before leaving, police said.
At 3:05 a.m. [on July 29], officers responded to the intersection in front of the store to meet with firefighters who were with a man complaining of pain in his leg and shoulder.
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If these men are prosecuted - NEVER cooperate with police, and make sure all video is destroyed.
The American Jesters system is banana republic BS.
I thought they were pretty restrained about it.
Fools. When confronted with a gun a metal rod is the appropriate response.
No, they didn’t go too far. Their mistake was letting the video get out. Nobody protects us but us.
Yeah, investigate them. Maybe there’s a medal that can be bestowed upon them.
I watched the video. The thief told them he had a gun and kept reaching for his back pocket. By any reasonable standard they were justified in defending themselves up to and including shooting him. Their actions actually showed great restraint.
Should have slit his throat...
Wasn’t THAT “viciously” beat...did the perp go to the hospital?
Modesto Bee needs to ask itself:
Would this incident have happened if the Modesto police and DA arrested/prosecuted thieves? The thief believed the police would do nothing. The store owners believed the police would do nothing about the theft. They were both correct. Government abdication of its fundamental duties forces honest citizens to protect themselves. J’accuse The Modesto government, which might as well have beaten the scumbag themselves. All public officials there who support non-enforcement should resign immediately — they are stealing their paychecks.
From what I could see it was a very restrained beating, using light cane, with all blows aimed at the thief’s legs, not his head. What they dished out was a few love taps to correct a rotten child. A solid ash bat shampoo would have been brutal and edge closer to illegality, though I would vote not-guilty.
For some reason they can charge the guys who beat the crap out of a brazen thief but will allow brazen thieves to brazenly steal with no response.
I would say that if store owners DONT dissuade these thieves they’re stupid.
“Store clerks have legal options when someone shoplifts. Teaming up to brutally beat the thief isn’t one of them.”
Apparently, it is.
Tyrus was right the only thing he did wrong was not yell at him saying stuff like,”You ever going to try that again, ARE YOU????ARE YOU????. Answer me !!!!!
If no serious bodily injury was inflicted I would argue that the use of force was not excessive, but I won’t pretend to be objective.
If they didn’t kill him, then they didn’t go too far.
Wanna stop this crap? If it were up to me, he’d have more holes in him than God intended.
Yes, but. You must us proportional force and just like you can't shoot someone running away from you in the name of self-defense, as they are no longer a threat, you can't keep beating someone with “near deadly force” once they are no longer a threat.
While if I was on a jury, I would have no problem with what these employees did, I understand why their behavior horrified the member of the criminal justice system. Vigilante justice is not something prosecuting attorney's or elected officials want to happen as it is a threat to their power.
If you shoot someone in self defense you can keep shooting until they are no longer a threat, but not a moment longer, which ultimately is a judgment call a jury gets to make.