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The thief told the clerks to back off as he had a gun. At that time any type of force including deadly would be appropriate.
1 posted on 08/06/2023 11:44:25 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To the premise that the clerks went too far, I say B. S.! The poor, mentally-ill thief got the ass-whuppin’ he deserved!


71 posted on 08/06/2023 12:41:11 PM PDT by old school
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Store clerks have legal options when someone shoplifts.

And there's the problem, right off the bat. If the police won't bother investigating a crime, and/or the DAs won't bother executing the law and prosecuting it or seeking any meaningful sentence for the offender, then those 'legal options' are worthless.

What we're seeing is the logical end result of the leftists' assault on basic police work and and their trashing of our legal system. They've damaged it to the point where it no longer gets results, and the public has begun to realize this state of affairs.

It's only natural that people stop doing that which gets no results, and start seeking alternatives...
72 posted on 08/06/2023 12:41:54 PM PDT by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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And thieves have a legal option to not steal.

One consequence of not exercising that option should be an ass whooping, which is something their fathers obviously forgot to do. Amount other things, like not running around siring bastard children all over the place.


77 posted on 08/06/2023 12:54:00 PM PDT by servo1969
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Well, Stealing is illegal, beating is illegal, what difference does it make, we are not enforcing rules these days.


81 posted on 08/06/2023 1:06:40 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: artichokegrower; BenLurkin; AAABEST; Hambone 1934; Secret Agent Man; Paladin2; gibsonguy; ...

And now, for the REST of the story!

Third time in less than 24 hours AT THE SAME STORE was the charm:

According to police, an employee at the 7-Eleven on Center Street, across the street from the Stockton Police Department headquarters, called officers at 3:41 a.m. on July 28 to report a suspect who went behind the counter and threatened to shoot the victim if he intervened.

According to police, the man got away with several packs of cigarettes and other items that he placed in a large garbage bag before leaving.

Less than 24 hours later, on July 29 at 12:27 a.m., the employee called police again to report that the same suspect entered the store and demanded money while simulating having a handgun.

The employee didn't comply and the suspect grabbed food items and put them in a garbage bag before leaving, police said.

At 3:05 a.m. [on July 29], officers responded to the intersection in front of the store to meet with firefighters who were with a man complaining of pain in his leg and shoulder.

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If these men are prosecuted - NEVER cooperate with police, and make sure all video is destroyed.

The American Jesters system is banana republic BS.

82 posted on 08/06/2023 1:08:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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I thought they were pretty restrained about it.


83 posted on 08/06/2023 1:09:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Fools. When confronted with a gun a metal rod is the appropriate response.


85 posted on 08/06/2023 1:16:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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No, they didn’t go too far. Their mistake was letting the video get out. Nobody protects us but us.


87 posted on 08/06/2023 1:28:21 PM PDT by fxerider76
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Yeah, investigate them. Maybe there’s a medal that can be bestowed upon them.


88 posted on 08/06/2023 1:31:22 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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I watched the video. The thief told them he had a gun and kept reaching for his back pocket. By any reasonable standard they were justified in defending themselves up to and including shooting him. Their actions actually showed great restraint.


89 posted on 08/06/2023 1:35:28 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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Should have slit his throat...


90 posted on 08/06/2023 1:36:20 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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Wasn’t THAT “viciously” beat...did the perp go to the hospital?


91 posted on 08/06/2023 1:36:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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Modesto Bee needs to ask itself:

Would this incident have happened if the Modesto police and DA arrested/prosecuted thieves? The thief believed the police would do nothing. The store owners believed the police would do nothing about the theft. They were both correct. Government abdication of its fundamental duties forces honest citizens to protect themselves. J’accuse The Modesto government, which might as well have beaten the scumbag themselves. All public officials there who support non-enforcement should resign immediately — they are stealing their paychecks.

From what I could see it was a very restrained beating, using light cane, with all blows aimed at the thief’s legs, not his head. What they dished out was a few love taps to correct a rotten child. A solid ash bat shampoo would have been brutal and edge closer to illegality, though I would vote not-guilty.


92 posted on 08/06/2023 1:47:36 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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For some reason they can charge the guys who beat the crap out of a brazen thief but will allow brazen thieves to brazenly steal with no response.

I would say that if store owners DONT dissuade these thieves they’re stupid.


93 posted on 08/06/2023 1:54:27 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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“Store clerks have legal options when someone shoplifts. Teaming up to brutally beat the thief isn’t one of them.”

Apparently, it is.


95 posted on 08/06/2023 1:58:46 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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Tyrus was right the only thing he did wrong was not yell at him saying stuff like,”You ever going to try that again, ARE YOU????ARE YOU????. Answer me !!!!!


98 posted on 08/06/2023 2:07:00 PM PDT by mware
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If no serious bodily injury was inflicted I would argue that the use of force was not excessive, but I won’t pretend to be objective.


100 posted on 08/06/2023 2:08:45 PM PDT by Spok
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If they didn’t kill him, then they didn’t go too far.


101 posted on 08/06/2023 2:13:42 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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Wanna stop this crap? If it were up to me, he’d have more holes in him than God intended.


102 posted on 08/06/2023 2:21:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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“.....The thief told the clerks to back off as he had a gun. At that time any type of force including deadly would be appropriate. .....”

Yes, but. You must us proportional force and just like you can't shoot someone running away from you in the name of self-defense, as they are no longer a threat, you can't keep beating someone with “near deadly force” once they are no longer a threat.

While if I was on a jury, I would have no problem with what these employees did, I understand why their behavior horrified the member of the criminal justice system. Vigilante justice is not something prosecuting attorney's or elected officials want to happen as it is a threat to their power.

If you shoot someone in self defense you can keep shooting until they are no longer a threat, but not a moment longer, which ultimately is a judgment call a jury gets to make.

105 posted on 08/06/2023 2:27:29 PM PDT by Robert357
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