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Judge Orders Sealed Hearing for Protective Order in Trump Classified Documents Case
Epoch Times ^ | 8/17/23 | Catherine Yang

Posted on 08/18/2023 8:51:53 AM PDT by CFW

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Judge Orders Sealed Hearing for Protective Order in Trump Classified Documents Case

1 posted on 08/18/2023 8:51:53 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

anyone have a copy of Biden’s indictment for having classified docs at home and other locations as senator and VP?


2 posted on 08/18/2023 9:02:21 AM PDT by coalminersson
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To: coalminersson

See it’s not illegal if you give back the documents back after a ten years. It’s like if you rob a bank but then give the money back to the cops , no harm no foul.


3 posted on 08/18/2023 9:06:15 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: CFW

Bottom line……since 1917, the Espionage Act has never been applied to Presidents or ex Presidents. Even when ex Presidents retained their Presidential records (including National Defense Information) they were not prosecuted under the Espionage Act. There is zero historical precedent for using the EA to go after Trump. The Presidential Records Act does not change anything about the provisions of the Espionage Act. The sooner Trump’s attorneys hammer that home, the better. President’s even after leaving office retain “authorized” status to view and discuss relevant National Defense Information, the classification and the toothless PRA are irrelevant.

With no violation of the Espionage Act, there can be no obstruction or conspiracy since there is no underlying felony.


4 posted on 08/18/2023 9:31:31 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: CFW

“special treatment that no other criminal defendant would receive and that is unsupported by law or precedent.”

Jack Smith is mistaken.

“Wen Ho Lee...is a Taiwanese-American scientist who worked for the University of California at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. He created simulations of nuclear explosions for the purposes of scientific inquiry, as well as for improving the safety and reliability of the U.S. nuclear arsenal.”

“Janet Reno confirmed with CIA Director George Tenet and FBI Director Louis Freeh that if the presiding judge rules that the government must reveal in open court what specifically was on the tapes, the prosecution would have to plea out the case or risk jeopardizing state secrets.”

“In September 2000, Judge Parker ruled that the government was required to disclose the information on the tapes.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

What the government can do is to request the judge suspend the trial until the information on one of the many documents involved no longer is no longer ‘sensitive’ [and was still ‘sensitive’ at the time the government asked that it be turned over].


5 posted on 08/18/2023 9:38:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: CFW

Another strategy the government might use is to redact the ‘sensitive’information on each document.

Trump might then have enough information for defense purposes (and the government for trial purposes). If not, the government can proceed from there, such as not relying on documents Trump can’t recall.


6 posted on 08/18/2023 9:45:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: CFW

I would hope each document has been agency reviewed with the intent of allowable declassification.


7 posted on 08/18/2023 9:46:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: CFW

Isn’t this the clever broad that wanted all the hearings
televised?

Sealed hearing? What’s up with that?


8 posted on 08/18/2023 10:03:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: escapefromboston

hmmm


9 posted on 08/18/2023 10:03:35 AM PDT by coalminersson
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t believe this is the judge that I thought agreed to
a televised trial, so my comment was off base.


10 posted on 08/18/2023 10:08:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

In my defense, so many trials, it’s hard to keep all the
details straight.


11 posted on 08/18/2023 10:09:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

EXACTLY

No cameras allowed. This will not be a fair and open session.
DS believes they hold the cards and call the shots. Do they?


12 posted on 08/18/2023 12:59:19 PM PDT by V K Lee (Our CONSTITUTION. Written with DIVINE assistance by very wise men. A document Unlike any other.)
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To: V K Lee

Things have a funny way of turning around and biting certain
folks on the posterior.

We’ll see how this goes, and what DAs and judges may wind up
in prison behind it.

Remember that guy trying to get Trump on Russian collusion,
who wound up going to prison for Russian collusion?

LOL Stay tuned...


13 posted on 08/18/2023 1:03:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Whatever she decides, chances are it will be discussed and
argued by many. That jail sounds like a third world hell hole. Filthy, disgusting, no bed (only a mat in a very small
cell with a hole in the floor & faucets for a wash, ‘shower’
Now pray tell me how PDJT can accept THOSE conditions?

Interesting dilemma. CAMERAS PLEASE

14 posted on 08/18/2023 1:20:23 PM PDT by V K Lee (Our CONSTITUTION. Written with DIVINE assistance by very wise men. A document Unlike any other.)
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