Zelensky Claims Netherlands to Send Entire Fleet of F-16 Fighter Jets After Meeting with Dutch PM

Breitbart ^ | 08/20/2023 | Kurt Zindulka

[Gunslingr3]

Although considering that we blew up the pipeline, I wouldn't blame Germany for wanting to shift their alliance from the U.S. to Russia.

How do you fit Germany shipping weapons to the Ukrainians into your understanding of the diplomatic realities?

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Delivered military support to Ukraine:

Armoured fighting vehicles

28 tracked all-terrain vehicles Bandvagn 206 (BV206)*

10 main battle tanks LEOPARD 1 A5*

138 MG3 for LEOPARD 2, MARDER and DACHS ammunition for LEOPARD 1*

18 LEOPARD 2 A 6 main battle tanks with ammunition (German share in joint project with further LEOPARD 2 operators)

40 infantry fighting vehicles MARDER with ammunition (from Bundeswehr and industry stocks*)

50 MRAP vehicles DINGO

54 M113 armoured personnel carriers each with 2 MG* (systems of Denmark, upgrades financed by Germany)

Spare parts for LEOPARD 2 and MARDER

Air defence

2 IRIS-T SLS launchers*

2 PATRIOT launchers

46 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns GEPARD incl. 21,042 rounds of ammunition*

2 air surveillance radar TRML-4D*

2 air defence system IRIS-T SLM*

IRIS-T SLM missiles* air defence system PATRIOT with missiles

55,000 rounds ammunitions for self-propelled anti-aircraft guns GEPARD

4,000 rounds practice ammunitions for self-propelled anti-aircraft guns

500 Man Portable Air Defense Systems STINGER

2,700 Man Portable Air Defense Systems STRELA

Artillery

17,000 rounds 155mm smoke ammunition (before: 12,461)

2 wheeled self-propelled howitzer Zuzana 2* (project jointly financed with Denmark and Norway)

15,510 rounds 155mm ammunition

155mm precision guided ammunition* (SMArt, VULCANO)

5 multiple rocket launchers MARS II with ammunition (German share in joint project with USA and Great Britain) ammunition for multiple rocket launchers MARS II

14 self-propelled howitzers Panzerhaubitze 2000 (German share in joint project with the Netherlands)

20 rocket launchers 70mm on pick-up trucks with rockets* counter battery radar system COBRA*

10 laser target designators and portable fire control modules for VULCANO artillery ammunition

[webheart]

The world is being run by idiots and pessimists.

[PAR35]

Put them in the hands of poorly trained pilots and send them directly into combat, and you may not need maintenance or spare parts.

[gibsonguy]

We shall see

[McGruff]

Kids with toys.

[Mariner]

All the units are Block 15.

The only strength in the war is the fact they shoot only NATO/US missiles and some of those have very good reach for strike missions.

[McGruff]

[The Iceman Cometh]

Too bad there isn't some international diplomatic body out there that could attempt to find some sort of diplomatic solution before this war really kicks off.

Ah, who am I kidding, there's still plenty of money to be made off of dead Ukranians.

[Gunslingr3]

If this is the link, the source says no details for when or where training is. More BS.

Sorry the link didn’t work, I was pointing to the fact that Netherlands has already slated their F-16 fleet for retirement, with joint training in the US ending last year. I’ve noticed positing to FR can be glitchy from my iPad (usually a double post).

Here is the URL to cut and paste:

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/end-of-an-era-as-royal-netherlands-air-force-f-16-viper-fighter-jets-in-the-us-fly-for-the-last-time/

Regarding Ukrainian training,

No one is expecting the F-16s to see the battlefield soon:

“Denmark said Ukrainian pilots would begin training on F-16 jets later this month, part of a coalition of 11 countries that will be involved in the training program.

Even so, Ukraine said Wednesday that it didn’t expect to receive F-16s until sometime next year.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/ukrainian-fighters-training-f-16-intl-hnk/index.html#:~:text=Ukrainian%20pilots%20have%20begun%20training,to%20counter%20Russian%20air%20superiority.

[McGruff]

[Gnome1949]

All three of their F-16’s?

[SACK UP]

I always though pimps and prostitutes.

[qaz123]

Who cares?

Russia shoots down most of them and then what?

[qaz123]

Good point.

They’ll cannibalize some to keep others in the air until they’re shot out of the sky.

So 42, will dwindle down to nothing in short order.

[usurper]

Netherlands will send all 42 of its F-16 fighter jets.

The only way the Netherlands would agree to that is if Biden agreed to replace them with F-35s.

Not to worry its a good deal for everyone. The Netherlands gets a free upgrade and our defense industry gets a nice infusion of US tax dollars.

[Carriage Hill]

Good point, too.
That’ll reduce the Uke AF quickly. The Ruzzians pilots are not slouches.

[Carriage Hill]

You’re probably right.

[EEGator]

Thank you.

[M Kehoe]

Okay...

What block of the F-16? Avionics, ordinance, maintenance?

Training?

Buenos suerte.

5.56mm

[PIF]

I’m calling BS
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Old News and is confirmed, sorry. Netherlands is set to get its F-35s soon. When they begin to arrive, the F-16s will leave.