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Zelensky Claims Netherlands to Send Entire Fleet of F-16 Fighter Jets After Meeting with Dutch PM
Breitbart ^ | 08/20/2023 | Kurt Zindulka

Posted on 08/20/2023 11:16:42 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: gibsonguy

The Netherlands has had a standing order for F35’s since the Obama administration (2012-ish). They started getting them in 2019 and about half the order was filled by 2021. They have gotten more since.

You could very easily have checked this before posting.


61 posted on 08/20/2023 4:01:07 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

It wasn’t my post.
You could very easily have checked this before posting.


62 posted on 08/20/2023 4:08:53 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Angelino97

The day Germany changes sides is the day the world changes.


63 posted on 08/20/2023 4:13:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: buwaya

You’re in another world if you think Denmark is going to war...ever...anywhere. They just have an Air Force as a boutique PR project. And the defense contractors cash in.

Silliness. They are about a third smaller than West Virginia and slightly smaller than Maryland. That’s why they need forty two supersonic jet fighters. You need an air traffic control system to keep them from running into each other. Their military has labor unions.


64 posted on 08/20/2023 4:22:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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If Denmark goes to war it will be as portions of a Nato force, and their squadrons will be operating from foreign bases.

Denmark has no great need for its own territorial defense, on the ground, seeing as they are deep inside Nato. The front line states are Finland/Sweden, the Baltics, Poland, Romania, etc. The most appropriate contribution Denmark can make to the collective defense are these squadrons.


65 posted on 08/20/2023 4:28:12 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DesertRhino

Their Jægerkorpset sure used to be good.


66 posted on 08/20/2023 4:34:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: House Atreides; EEGator; FtrPilot; ETCM; ChicagoConservative27

“Who can pilot them?”

“Are the Dutch going to send the pilots and maintenance crews also?”

They plan to dribble them in small batches, as pilots and support personnel graduate from training (Even the training will be phased - a quick initial capability, then gradually rotating people back for more skills).

The first small batches are expected around New Year’s Day.

From CNN:

“(Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen) “Today we announce that we will provide 19 F-16 jets to Ukraine... We plan to provide the jets closer to the new year, about six of them, then eight in the next year (2024) and then another five (in 2025).””

The Dutch are providing aircraft in the near term, for the Ukrainian pilot training programs standing up in Denmark and Romania, and will later begin transferring aircraft to the Ukrainian Air Force. The expectation is that they will also be phased in small batches over a few years, as personnel are trained, in a unit set train/equip cycle, as was done with the Western tanks.

Several other potential donor Nations were involved in the coordination effort to provide fighter jets to the Ukraine - they are likely to announce additional contributions as well. All the rich NATO Countries are replacing their F-16’s with F-35s.

Sweden has also begun training Ukrainians on their Grippen Fighter Jets, which are well suited to shorter runways(like Ukraine is currently using, to hide its jets from the Russians).

The overall Multi-National effort aims to build up to somewhere between 200-300 Western fighter jets in the Ukrainian Air Force, over the next few years (2026-27).

There really is no option for the Ukrainians, but to transition to Western jets - ordering parts from Russia is never going to fly, after what has occurred.


67 posted on 08/20/2023 4:41:35 PM PDT by BeauBo (Penny Ruble - soon to be remembered by Russians as the good old days. Putin is a Master Strategist.)
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To: buwaya

I’m certainly glad they didn’t take their eye off the Soviet ball.


68 posted on 08/20/2023 7:09:57 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: DesertRhino

Denmark certainly went to war alongside U.S. forces in Afghanistan in 2005 when I was there. Their F-16s flew missions from Kabul IAP and Bagram AB in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. They also deployed a very good tactical radar system that could detect rockets being fired at Kabul.

You need to do more research on what happened in the real world rather than in your fantasies.


69 posted on 08/20/2023 7:24:27 PM PDT by Grognard49
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