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U.S. Ready to Begin Training Ukraine F-16 Fighter Pilots, Support Crew
Breitbart ^ | 8-25-2023 | Simon Kent

Posted on 08/25/2023 3:27:15 PM PDT by bimboeruption

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To: firebrand

Many don’t know.


41 posted on 08/25/2023 5:16:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: bimboeruption

It’s a logistic challenge then just train pilots.


42 posted on 08/25/2023 5:28:17 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: ealgeone

We are too many years away from 1945 and the men who came back unable to even speak about the slaughter they had seen. I was little but I remember “Don’t let it EVER happen again!”

And that was conventional warfare until the end.

The almost 80 years that have passed and the comparatively primitive weapons used make us think of it as moldy history and not an evil that can consume a population once again.

This is our last chance to trade in teenage belligerence for something higher. It can be done. Trump could have done it when it began and may even be able to do it now.


43 posted on 08/25/2023 5:29:56 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: MarMema

Hmm. I have employed people (Russian) who told me about staying in line for hours to buy groceries. Back in the 80s. They were recent immigrants to the US.

Also Moscow was better treated than elsewhere under the Soviet regime. Also probably true under this regime. On the matter of conscription call-ups say.

The truth is out there. But one won’t come close to it if one doesn’t understand the media, the MSM, or propaganda. Foreign media is a major corrective to US media. The British, Spanish and French press tends to run at cross purposes to the US. The Financial Times vs the WSJ, ABC or Figaro vs the NYT. Even Le Monde. And of course the Daily Mail will carry items the US MSM won’t, as we see on FR everyday.

And then there are the professional and trade journals. That’s why I predicted, accurately, that Europe wouldn’t “freeze in the dark”, and the collapse of natgas prices.

It takes work, to gain a sense of perspective. But it certainly is possible.


44 posted on 08/25/2023 5:33:04 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MarMema

And historical perspective works.

Put yourself back in 1943. The BBC was extremely biased. Orwell took his perspective on propaganda, for the most part, from his wartime stint in the BBC.

But who would you have depended on, hunched over your crystal radio, for the truth, relative if not absolute, on the course of the war? The BBC or the Reichsrundfunk?

In this case you have preferred the Reichsrundfunk.


45 posted on 08/25/2023 6:03:13 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

“One more insane lurch toward triggering a nuclear holocaust.”

Unless we change course, it will soon be inevitable with no way to stop it. BOOM!


46 posted on 08/25/2023 6:38:09 PM PDT by bosco24
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To: ought-six

I would think a pilot proficient in gunnery, offensive/defensive maneuvering, radar and basic tactics could train in 3 to 4 months. Assumes program spun up on day one and sims/aircraft availability.

A civ pilot transitioning to another comparable craft goes through a course of less than a month. Another month needed for what I just stated and a couple months for gobt incompetence and inefficiency should just about do it.


47 posted on 08/25/2023 7:22:09 PM PDT by petertare
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To: jacknhoo

Is it normal for foreign pilots to be training at a National Guard base?
Davis Monthan AFB is right next door.

The illegitimate governor of Arizona approves of this plan..


48 posted on 08/25/2023 8:10:44 PM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: ought-six; All

“Some people are patriots, and are willing to put it all on the line for their country. Which seems to be a conviction with which you are wholly unfamiliar. “


There is basically nothing left in any Western country worth fighting for.

And a great deal worth fighting against.

The Ukrainians throwing their lives away in the faint hope of joining the Globohomo Regime seems like the most futile sacrifice ever.


49 posted on 08/25/2023 8:17:45 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

“There is basically nothing left in any Western country worth fighting for.”

Surrender now, Dorothy.


50 posted on 08/26/2023 4:06:41 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: bimboeruption
News Flash! I love this country. My husband, father, father-in-law, grandfathers, uncles and cousins fought for America. 18 of my ancestors fought in, or financially supported the Revolutionary War. My love is deep and never-ending.

Well said and worth repeating. 👍👍👍

51 posted on 08/26/2023 4:36:10 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: arthurus
By the time training is finished and the pilots go home, home will be Russia.

My guess is these pilots will become part of whichever military organization trains them and/or work directly for NATO.

Ukraine itself is gonna be demilitarized one way or another.

52 posted on 08/26/2023 4:46:21 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: KingLudd

6 months, 4 if they are already proficient in English and the terminology used


53 posted on 08/26/2023 4:50:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ought-six; All

“Surrender now, Dorothy.”


People like you have surrendered to our internal enemies.

In fact, you have allied with them against a supposed external threat, which is not actually a threat.

The threat to the Heritage populations of the West comes from the internal enemy, which is attacking its own populations while supporting this war.


54 posted on 08/26/2023 11:10:25 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

“People like you have surrendered to our internal enemies.”

Nice try, kid. You assume facts not in evidence, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment.

I do not believe in surrenders; it is just not in my DNA. Simply put, I am not wired that way.

“In fact, you have allied with them against a supposed external threat, which is not actually a threat.”

Again, nice try. I applaud a country defending itself against an existential threat from a bigger and stronger neighbor, regardless who that country’s leader is.

“The threat to the Heritage populations of the West comes from the internal enemy, which is attacking its own populations while supporting this war.”

The threat to us comes from many directions; but, you are so myopic you cannot see that. That, or you are a stooge for those who wish the US ill.


55 posted on 08/26/2023 11:32:16 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“Again, nice try. I applaud a country defending itself against an existential threat from a bigger and stronger neighbor, regardless who that country’s leader is.”


So if, Canada or Mexico, for example were to join the BRICs and align themselves with Russia and China, you will support them when the GAE (Globalist American Empire) attacks them ?


56 posted on 08/26/2023 11:58:26 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

“So if, Canada or Mexico, for example were to join the BRICs and align themselves with Russia and China, you will support them when the GAE (Globalist American Empire) attacks them ?”

Globalist American Empire? What kind of fantasy world do you wallow in?

BRICS is courting Mexico. And if the US attacked Mexico for joining BRICS I’d condemn the US for doing so. But, of course, such a scenario exists only in your own fevered imagination.


57 posted on 08/26/2023 12:40:08 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“But, of course, such a scenario exists only in your own fevered imagination.”


You’ve got to be kidding !

If Canada were to join the BRICs and align itself with China and Russia, the first thing we would get is a GAE created “Color Revolution” and have a Canadian Zelensky installed.

Same with Mexico.


58 posted on 08/26/2023 12:45:34 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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