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US likely to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for the first time: Officials
ABCNews.com ^ | September 8, 2023 | Matt Seyler

Posted on 09/09/2023 5:16:02 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
I was just wondering....

What are the DC lawyers going to do (IF we survive this whole ordeal) when this Ukraine, Russia thing is all over with, and Ukraine, with all its new American toys, turns its attention west toward Poland, Slovakia and maybe Hungary.?? And we can bet our last dollar they WILL do so.!

Oh, wait, I guess we've, pretty much, already bet our last dollar... (spit)

41 posted on 09/09/2023 6:34:12 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: MarMema

Absolutely. Putin warned the US. He doesn’t bluff.


42 posted on 09/09/2023 6:35:19 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our politicians are such a treasure. You just want to bury them.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Bkmk


43 posted on 09/09/2023 6:37:30 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Thermonuclear war. That’s what 81 million voters wanted, remember? Loss of energy independence, dispirited military, runaway inflation, China dominance over product production, flaky electrical grid due to “green energy’ sources and soon food shortages after any attack Russia offers. Stock markets will collapse and it will be total chaos. Any questions?


44 posted on 09/09/2023 6:39:21 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our politicians are such a treasure. You just want to bury them.)
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To: BipolarBob

How about a nice game of Chess?


45 posted on 09/09/2023 6:39:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ransomnote

—> Biden is desperate to start WWIII so he can declare martial law and stop the exposures of his crimes.

… and the 2024 Election


46 posted on 09/09/2023 6:45:33 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: tlozo

And you believe them why?

Zenlenskyy would like nothing better than to draw other countries into the war.

Ukrainie is hitting targets in Moscow with drones.

Why would they need longer range missiles to hit Russians in Ukraine?


47 posted on 09/09/2023 6:47:24 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Timber Rattler

Rich Neocons North of Richmond


48 posted on 09/09/2023 6:47:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Jonty30

Another step closer to a hot world war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
The 2024 election may for the first time ever that the voters themselves get a once-in-a-lifetime the opportunity to determine whether to make America Great Again OR have it completely destroyed in a nuclear holocaust!


49 posted on 09/09/2023 6:55:01 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
The 2024 election may for the first time ever that the voters themselves get a once-in-a-lifetime the opportunity to determine whether to make America Great Again OR have it completely destroyed in a nuclear holocaust!


50 posted on 09/09/2023 6:56:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RaceBannon
It has to do with the foundation of the PEACE movement in the US and abroad and their Communist foundation

The light bulb went off in my head on that notion while watching the old Richard Burton movie "The Spy That Came In From the Cold". His Soviet-sympathizing girlfriend had a peace sign on her apartment bulletin board.

51 posted on 09/09/2023 7:01:41 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: odawg
And you believe them why?

Because Britain and France have already sent comparable missiles, SCALP which have ONLY been used against occupied territories.

I'm sure we can also track the use of these missiles.

52 posted on 09/09/2023 7:32:07 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: RaceBannon
from 20 years ago on this site:

I joined this site officially over 20 years ago. A lot has happened since then that has moved many Freepers, including myself, from the Neocon, globalist view of the world to one that questions US interventionist policy, which has been a dismal failure. Endless wars have weakened and divided this country. Our disastrous, abject exit from Afghanistan after 18 years is the poster boy for what is wrong with our foreign policy and the disconnect of our leadership from the people.

We have a $2 trillion annual budget deficit this calendar year. We are the world's biggest debtor nation. We have to BORROW THE MONEY to send to Ukraine.

Annual debt servicing costs on our $32.5 trillion national debt are approximately $600 billion. It will soon exceed DOD's annual budget. We can't afford these endless wars that don't involve our strategic national interests.

You sound like a Neocon globalist who never found a war you didn't like. Not one more cent should be sent to Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world. We are prolonging this proxy war, which started in 2014 after the US/EU engineered coup of the duly elected government of Ukraine. It was led by Victoria Nuland. It spawned the separatist movement in the Donbas and the first unopposed Russian invasion that annexed Crimea.

This all started under the Obama/Biden Administration. We have a compromised President who took millions in bribes from Ukraine. How much of our policy towards Ukraine is affected by the leverage Ukraine has over Biden?

We are now in a new Cold War that has resulted in a global political realignment, which is extremely dangerous for us. Most of the world is ignoring the sanctions against Russia, which has moved closer to China, the real existential threat to America.

As Robert Gates, former defense secretary in the Obama administration, once put it, Biden has “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” The Biden/Blinken/Nuland/Sullivan/Powers team that started this war in 2014 is back in power. How can anyone trust these fools and knaves to exercise the judgment and competence needed to protect American interests?

Trump has exposed the venal, corrupt Deep State that views the American people as mere pawns to carry out what they deem to be important. They attempted a coup of the duly elected President of the United States after the 2016 election with the Russia hoax and the impeachment over a telephone call to Ukraine. They successfully prevented the re-election of Trump in 2020 and are now in the process of trying to remove him from the ballot in 2024. The J6 Fedsurrection was an intel op.

20 years ago, all of this would be unthinkable. We had far more trust in our institutions. That no longer exists. We will not accept the futile waste of blood and treasure in order to boost the profits of the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about over 60 years ago. And special interests that donate the big bucks to the political class like Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Tech, etc. have no allegiance to America and its people.

53 posted on 09/09/2023 7:36:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: dfwgator

Check


54 posted on 09/09/2023 7:40:24 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: RaceBannon
Zelensky's Adviser, Oleksiy Arestovych, confirms that a full-scale war with Russia was pre-planned and desired by the Ukrainian regime for the purpose of joining NATO as far back as in 2019 when this interview was conducted:

The Ukraine war FORETOLD

55 posted on 09/09/2023 7:41:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: tlozo

But they have.


56 posted on 09/09/2023 7:46:23 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: Timber Rattler

“Biden” is risking all our lives for his corrupt “Ukraine” project. I pray for the defeat of this Satanism.


57 posted on 09/09/2023 8:22:47 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: tlozo

“ATACMS are fired from the same vehicle Ukraine uses to fire HIMARS.”

Understand. But that’s where the mystery begins. According to a report from Russia they have already destroyed 27 HIMARS and have created a defense system that intercepts HIMAR attacks. Some say they did, some don’t. Who do you believe?

wy69


58 posted on 09/09/2023 8:24:15 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: kabar

Excellent post. America is (very likely) finished in no small part to NeoCon thinking and acceptance of it by many uninformed or duped conservatives. Now we know.


59 posted on 09/09/2023 8:24:28 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Timber Rattler
It's another game changer...One that will drag the war out and result in another 60,000 dead Ukrainians and thousands more amputees.

How is that three-month Ukrainian counteroffensive going?

60 posted on 09/09/2023 8:45:53 AM PDT by Kazan
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